DVLA demanding money for a bike i dont own

[Tuffers]

I got a letter from collectica this morning stating that i haven't paid tax for a bike that i wrote off and gave to a family friend 3 years ago.

On the letter it says i have to pay £80 for a late licencing penalty in 2011, but the problem is i haven't owned the bike since half way through 2010 and it was wrote off in 2009.

Ive phoned them up and they are having none of it saying that i apparently haven't notified the DVLA that i don't own it and because i don't have an acknowledgment letter i am responsible for ownership :S Also they said i might get more fines every year if i dont tell them that i have got rid of the bike.

I have no intention of paying this fine as the date of offence is September 2011 and i hadn't owned the bike for over a year from then.

Can anyone give me advice as to what i can do about this please?

[LockyUK]

tell them you sent off a change of ownership, the onus is on them to prove you DIDN'T rather than you to prove to them, fuck em

[_Troy_]

As above, don't pay and ignore their ballshit.
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[Tuffers]

I told them i sent off the logbook but they are saying if i didn't get a letter back then i am responsible to pay the fine and if i don't pay it then they will charge me an extra £1000.. :S

I also told them i moved house twice since then so even if i did get a letter back, i didn't receive it.

[Doovy]

As above x2.

Because the DVLA didn't send you a letter back.. you're responsible?!
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[P.addy]

[garth]

I got a letter from the DVLA saying much the same as above, for a vehicle I've never even owned.
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[Rogerborg]

"Written off" means nothing. That's between you and your insurers, unless it was scrapped (which it obviously wasn't). What matters is the change of keeper.

[andym]

similar to my problem last year... They were about to take me to court in december, and I sent them all the proof that I had about selling the bike, and to prove that I hadn't sent the completed v5 back to them after they returned it to me..... they dropped the case after that.

Contact the police or insurance companies, get proof that the bike was sold/destroyed/written off etc and send it too them with a snotty letter telling them to go fuck themselves basically

[arry]

[kingsknight]

The DVLA is a bunch of monkeys! My best mate had this with a bike which got stolen. Took weeks to get it sorted. Had to get the police to contact dvla which took ages.
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[raesewell]

I bet the DVLA will win

[stevo as b4]

[P.addy]

[Tuffers]

Are you sure i would get away with just ignoring them? I don't want to get fined even more money and get taken to court and loose.

[Nexus Icon]

Well, I wouldn't ignore them now that you've acknowledged them but I would tell them, in no uncertain terms, that you did post the V5 back to the DVLA and that any further contact will be considered harassment.
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[Rogerborg]

[P.addy]

[Matt578]

Exactly, Its up to them to prove that you did not send it off, How are they going to prove that?

Maybe they have received it and lost it

Paddy i would love to watch your court case lol
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[Paulington]

Tuffers.

As long as you have told the DVLA that you have sent off the V5 to them whenever you sold the motorcycle in question, you can just ignore everything they send you, don't put it in the bin, keep it in a little folder so if it does go to court you can show how much you've been harassed by the DVLA (make a record of ALL calls from them too) in your own home when you have done absolutely nothing wrong.

Every phone call you get just say you sent off the V5 and tell them that it is their job to satisfy the requirement under Section 7 of the Interpretation Act 1978 to prove that you did not send the V5 and then hang up.

If you sent off the V5, don't worry about it, they cannot prove you didn't send off the V5 so their bribes are meaningless and if it ever does get to court the Judge will just quote the above and laugh in their face, just ask Paddy, he's beaten them twice in this manner. !

FYI, not a legal mind, so if the above legalese is wrong, please correct me, it's just what I remember from a previous post. .

Cheers! .
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[Tuffers]

So i can stop worrying about it and file anything they send me? Should i send DVLA a letter saying i sent the V5 away 15 months before the alleged offence?

[Paulington]

[Acemastr]

My GF has the exact same problem but with a car, because she is the 'registered owner', even though the slip was sent off, they are demanding money, basically they are trying to get the money from anyone they can.

Even the DVLA told her to send proof again and ignore the warnings, but the warning letters keep on coming.
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[Rogerborg]

It depends how worried you'll get by ongoing bluff, bluster and threat.

You may even end up in court. Paddy's on his 3rd go.

Being wrong, and being unable to win against a prepared victim, isn't stopping them.
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[Paulington]