Bike thefts compared to car thefts.....

[Polarbear]

Nowadays it seems to me that with immobilisers fitted as standard to just about every car going, modern car theft is pretty well limited to chancers hijacking cars or stealing the keys from the house first.

I know you are never going to stop people lifting a bike into a van and stripping it for spares, but surely the time has come for all bikes to be fitted with immobilisers. It can't cost that much in todays era of cheap electronic gizmos.

I know it would take a while to filter through as there is probably a higher ratio of older bikes around than older cars but in a few years it should mean that chavs stealing bike to rant around and then torch should become a thing of the past and stories like kingsknights attempted theft of his Varadeo wouldn't happen.

Or am I being totally unrealistic in both thinking manufacturers will fit them to cheap bikes and that it will do the slightest good to stopping the scrotes from trying to steal them.
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Most bikes are, the Triumphs I've seen do not come with them stock

[EXC-Rider]

the annoying thing i find is with the immobilizer on my bike is that once the battery is flat the immobilizer stops working, it only takes about a week in cold weather for my battery to fun flat.
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[arry]

My Sprint's 'standard fit' alarm - a Datatool S4 - burnt itself out and left the bike immobilised. I wasn't best happy.

When the alarm was fitted if I didn't use the bike for about 10 days the battery would be flat. Now, I can leave it 6 weeks and it's fine.

I really don't consider alarms to be that much of a theft deterrent. Random car alarm goes off at night and most people don't even twitch their curtains to find out whose it is. Today's criminal bastards are into rocking up in the middle of the day, broad daylight, and stuffing a bike into the back of a van. I don't think they would give a toss whether an alarm siren is blaring or otherwise TBH.

[stevo as b4]

Surely you'd do as well on most secondhand bikes to fit your own simple ignition immobiliser switch to do the same thing.

I didn't think that even Chavs these days were that bothered about what they could jump on and start with a screwdriver, and ride off over the fields on. I mean if a bike is easy to grab and wheel away through the estate or into a mates garage then they'd just as likely do that, and strip it down for spares.

I'd put much more faith in physical bike security than immobiliisers, and as like you said you cannot ever stop bikes being lifted into vans for later breaking for parts, but chain that MOFO up to something big and solid with real heavy duty security, and it's probably safe parked in the middle of town all day and night. If it's under a CCTV cam and you've got 15-20mins of security to get through with noisy tools, then even pro theives have got to really really want the bike badly to bother, when they can find some mug who's thrown a disc lock on another bike around the corner, and disapeared shopping for the day etc.

[Shinigami]

my 03 hornet has an immobiliser from stock, not sure why others wouldn't as the hornet isn't a fancy pants bike compared to a lot of others about...
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[Rogerborg]

The traditional view has been that a bike stolen or wrecked is a new bike bought. It's hard to argue against that, except in the general sense that insurance prices will eventually kill the market.

Motoring media spend decades shaming manufacturers with theft tests[*]. How often do you see that happening in bike mags?

I doubt there's enough competition or common sense in the bike purchasing market for it to be a real issue. Bikes are bought by the heart, not the head. How far down your "want" list does "standard fit alarm/immobiliser" come?

[*] BMW only acknowledged that their keyless entry cars were trivial to nick after Watchdog outed them.
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[fatpies]

I'd prefer shaped charges, bike lifted or stolen? Explosive charge goes off blowing off their legs.
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[pa_broon74]

Immobilisers and alarms are all a bit moot.

By the time they go off or are tripped, your steering lock is fucked costing hundreds to repair unless you can do it yourself in which case it's a ballache of a job.

I haven't owned a bike that wasn't either stolen or tampered with, now i can't keep a bike at home even although the one I have is alarmed and immobilised. If some cretin takes an interest, it'll not matter how much noise it makes, it'll be making it because damage has already been done.

Might be worthwhile on a new bike, but on something that a fucked steering lock/probable replacement top-yock will write it off...

I'd go with those shape charges as well or some sort of tazer set up.


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[Joncrete Cungle]

I don't have much faith in alarms or immobilisers on bikes, having been let down by them in the past. What I would like manufacturers to do is incorporate in to the design of their bikes a purpose made gap somewhere between the engine / frame / solid area that you can feed a 19mm chain through. Or perhaps some sort of a locking nut / security nut that makes it a damn sight harder to remove a wheel without the correct sized / dimensioned 'bit' perhaps.

[Casper]

If i do have to park in a dodgy area i unscrew two HT caps. What scum bag carries them around in there pocked.

[DrDonnyBrago]

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[Knightsy]

Talking about bike safety requires this reddit post from (supposedly) ex-bike thief who talked about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/comments/t5shp/ex_thief_chopshop_operator_ama/
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[Casper]

[Bomberman]

[G]

Speak with your wallet - if it's important, only buy bikes with a factory fit immobiliser .

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[keggyhander]

Immobilisers are probably keeping Optimate in business.