No pre-owned games on new Xbox (and maybe always on DRM)

[metalangel]

https://www.edge-online.com/news/the-next-xbox-always-online-no-second-hand-games-50gb-blu-ray-discs-and-new-kinect/

If that's true, I'm definitely not interested any more.

What's more, this greed will likely destroy them. Consumers won't stand for it, and all it will take is for Sony to say that they won't be doing this and a huge number of Xbox owners will defect.
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[Rogerborg]

Are you kidding? Sony are super gay for this stuff. They difference is that they'll just be flat denying it even as people point at it and say "But... it's doing it. It's doing it right now!"
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[yaigi]

I'll just wait til the geeks find a way around this 'no second hand games' malarkey. They always do, there's always someone cleverer out there
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[Shinigami]

if that's true there's no chance i'll bother until such a time as there is an exploit or mod available to bypass it.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

It looks like I am set to be a "retro" gamer for the rest of my life then, no chance in hell I'll be buying into that bollocks.

[Neorion]

And people said PC gaming is dead

Viva la revolution!
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[Villers]

Doesn't bode well for high street retailers either. What are the likes of Game going to sell? Consoles only? The salvation here would be the UK's shitty internet that would mean some people would have to go buy the coaster from the shop instead of waiting a week for a 50gb download!

The big factor for me here is that Ive bought some 'awesome' games in the past and they've ended up as 'shit'. Can often chuck them onto someone else for £25 and everyones happy. No way am I paying £40 for a non physical, non transferable game that could be utter codshit.

Interesting developments indeed and not likely to be popular
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[smegballs]

The sort of games I like to play are all on PC anyway, not to mention I prefer keyboard/mouse input.

I got round a mates house and I play the newest Collardoody and it's the same old shit as the last one.... Rinse and repeat for most of the console games it seems.

I like games like STALKER, weird hard to play shit that is so buggy it needs a several patches and a mod or two just to make it playable. Once you get it going though you can spend hours in it. You just couldn't release something like that on xbox. I don't know a massive amount about console game developing, but I'm gonna assume some random-ass games crew from Ukraine wouldn't even get a look in.

Replaying thought Fallout 3 with some mods on, revitalizes the whole game! Another thing you can't do on console.

[metalangel]

[Paddy Blake]

[Nexus Icon]

I remember when they said exactly the same about used games before the 360 release.

Fact is, quite a few second hand games require a new online code purchase nowadays. I think EA started that though, rather than the console manufacturers.
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[Paulington]

To be honest I figured this was always going to happen in one way or another.

It's a well known and, pretty much, a common sense fact that second hand games hurt the bottom line of these companies and so they want to figure out a way to make people buy and use new games instead of second hand ones.

Personally I think this will go the way of a few of the F1 games, for example.

Some of the F1 games ship with an 'activation' code which, once used, is useless and means that if you want to play the game online, you need to purchase an activation code or the full game.

This means that second hand games will still have a market, but to get full use of the game as, let's face it, the vast majority of gamers with these consoles buy them for the online portion of the game and as such will end up buying the full game.

That's what I see becoming more widespread, anyway.

Cheers! .
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[SuperFurrySam]

If it was done properly it'd be a good thing, it gets rid of wasteful publishers and more power to the games developers which would be very good for the industry.

However it won't be - Microsoft still attempt to sell games downloads on the Xbox 360 at 3 or 4 times the price you can pick up a hard copy.
They're greedy and once they have a monopoly they'll get even worse.


Doesn't really bother me though, the video game industry has turned to shit in the last 3/4 years. All the games are designed for dumb 14 year old americans. It's all easy/casual games crap - you can't tell one from the other.



Like smegballs, I like games that are a bit more interesting and unique - STALKER on PC may have had it's bugs and glitches, but it had the best atmosphere of any video game ever.

Indie developers often produce brilliant games - 'Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis' is still the best war game I've ever played. The average gamer today couldn't handle a single mission from a game like that, I used to enjoy being challenged.



There are a couple of good mainstream games I guess, but they're becoming increasingly rare.

Off the top of my head I can only think of two games I look forward to playing.

GTA V & Half Life 3

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[metalangel]

[mysterious_rider]

No doubt the games will cost a solid £50.

I'll probably buy one, and I'm sure someone can chip them.

If not, I'll buy a top spec pc and just download games for free.
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[stuarthouston]

https://www.oxm.co.uk/49980/blog/why-the-next-xbox-wont-be-always-online-or-block-used-games/

The flip side of the argument. I personally can't see it happening. It would be corporate suicide at a very delicate time for the industry!

[metalangel]

[Mr.Everready]

[LordShaftesbu...]

Agree, it's more likely you wil still buy on disc and the game will be tied to an online account, meaning you must be connected at all times to the internet to play even the single player, and you can't sell it on. Just like many games already on PC.