Stoke Toy Run

McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

Oh come on Ste, thats getting more than a little caried away.

Odie - it's a quid. For charity. It's harldy daylight robbery, and if you're that bothered you can always tag onto the run after its left the stadium.
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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Agree, it's about as tight as some of the people who came in the shop yesterday and didn't donate to the British Legion, but happily took a poppy away with them. Mad

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Not showing support by going along and riding with them, but showing support by donating a toy. £1 really isn't much of a loss to most people who have bikes, most people are quite happy to donate it if they're going along, just struck me as slightly odd the way you're not welcomed to donate just a toy, if you want to go along you have to donate a toy and money and if you want to donate just a toy then you can't go on the run.

Yes it is about raising money and getting toys for kids, but surely something for charity is better than nothing. If going I would be quite happy to donate a toy & money, majority of people are of a similar mind but as shown in this thread not 100%.

You do show support by just riding along, as the more bikes there are showing support for the charity than the bigger impact it will have and raise the publics awareness of that charity.

Not wanting or trying to make this into a arguement over "omg I'm too tight to pay £1!!!" as it isn't asking much of people at all, just that saying you're only allowed on the ride if you donate some money puts some people off and will therefore mean less toys for the event. Penny Coin

mad-wolfie · Drama Queen Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Karma :

OK can i just say, the day is about donations of toys & gifts... the cash is simply a bonus - the more cash we raise the more we can give to charity.

The money isn't the important issue with us but the donation of toys & gifts is. We can always raise the extra £ you don't wish to give by adding a few pense to the price of the badges & merchandise we sell instead but then this would be very unfair.

At one time we used to charge £2.50 per person but dropped the figure to £1 per bike simply as a lot of people decided to not pay... we actually found charging the £ we raised more money as more people were willing to pay that way.

Some people are never satisfied. After all like i say it is a donation, not a fee. if you want to pay £5 instead of £1 then you can pay that much... have a heart will you after all it is for charity & one day it may well be one of your kids that benefits from the cash we raise.

Along with all the good work we do for charity, these runs are here to promote the good work that motorcyclists do & also to show Joe public that once in a while we do worthwhile things for charity.... we don't want to show the public that bikers are too tight fisted to pay £1 to ride in a charity parade. My advise is if you don't want to pay £1 then please stay home & put your £1 in a fruit machine down the local pub instead where it will do a lot more good for charity... after all you are the one missing out.

Demonic69 · The Pink Rhino Joined: 31 May 2002 Karma :

Wow Ste, you really have got issues.
I think charging £1 is a great idea. You can count how much you have raised and donated, you get all the entertainment, which is never free, you get the bikes etc etc. As said, if you're having a hard time donating £1, just stay at home and type about how hard life is.
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Odie · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Karma :

Sorry guys but i dont think you should have to pay / donate money to go on a run, be it a toy run or an egg run, it makes no odds. It should be YOU OWN desision if you wish to make a donation.
The money is not an issue, its the fact that you are being told before you even get there that you will pay.
If you dont mind me asking why was the fact that there was a charge/ donation required not mentioned before my post?
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Shaun · Likes 'em bent Joined: 17 May 2003 Karma :

because it was assumed that you wouldn't be a tight arse and would willingly donate the £1 to go out and have some fun, obviously not and its no great loss if you don't go along because you have to pay £1!

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

mad-wolfie · Drama Queen Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Karma :

OK i've added a picture of our toy run poster you will CLEARLY see the words "£1 DONATION PLUS A TOY AT START GIVES ACCESS TO KINGS HALL, STOKE AND ENTRY TO PRIZE RAFFLE" printed in the text on the poster.

A lot of you have commented on the Pet food run & how good it was.. OK what about if we adopt their policy... & charge £2 per person + a gift instead of paying £1 + a gift of an Easter egg or toy for christmas.

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Odie · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Karma :

Why do we do toy / egg / pet food /blanket etc runs for?
Honestly why do we do these things.
We do them because it makes us feel good!
I am not knocking this toy run, far from it, i think that its an exellent idea and has been from day 1.
I just feel that a charge is wrong and that a donation should be offered not asked for, thats all, if its a donation you should offer it not be asked for it.
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Odie · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Karma :

You dont ride but choose to pass comment on bikers.

Its nice of you to tell us that you gave £5 and didnt even go on the run, that was "YOUR" choice, "YOUR" decision.
If it had been some "Crack Wh-re" with a knife asking for money would it be different?
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mad-wolfie · Drama Queen Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Karma :

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

It is fair enough that you have to donate something if you want to go along, the toy run is primarily about gather toys for kids, the day being a good day for everyone who takes part isn't the main objective of the day, they are not organising it all so you can go along and take part in the ride around, as the ride wouldn't be quite as godo publicity if all they could say was "look, all the bikers came along to our charity event but most of them where too tight fisted to donate a toy or some money!". Yes being on the ride adds support but it doesn't really mean much if you havn't given anything to them.

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Odie · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Karma :

Look this is getting out of hand, people are entitled to their own opinions, if you dont like it then fine thats your problem, no need to go labeling them tight etc because you dont agree with their opinion.
Toy runs are exellent, i always put money in the bucket / hat etc, i just dont like being told how much to put in.
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mad-wolfie · Drama Queen Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Karma :

No Odie, you are the one with the problem here.. a very serious one. I notice you are plugging the Derby Pet food run in another thread on this site.. well that just shows you must be jealous - if it wasn't for the Stoke Toy run I doubt very much the Pet food run would exist as we were the 1st in the UK to hold an event of this type - we lead others followed...the only bike run that is older is of course the jumbo run which is completely different.

How would you like if i came along to your precious pet-food run you are plugging & started moaning & groaning & shouting my mouth of about how I had to go to tesco & spend 49p on a tin of chappie dog food just so i could take part in this stupid bike run when all i want to do is ride my bike around for a bit.

I take it the reason for your somewhat back pedalling now is because you have yet to find anywhere else like the Stoke toy run that offers all that for a quid.... the answer shouldn't of been that hard to find... try the Stoke Egg run which will be about 4 months after the toy run & again will cost you just £1.

I really don't like getting my hair off against fellow bikers especially when i am promoting the Stoke toy run in the run up to an event but you my friend have really taken the biscuit on this occasion.

Odie · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Karma :

I am posting about the derby pet food run for a friend, nothing to do with me.
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mchaggis · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 May 2004 Karma :

Whatever is the case, there is little need to get bitchy about things. It won't help your cause much if the thread is just a bitter debate of the rights and wrongs of money donation imo.

A pound here or there will not make a difference to either the donators or the receivers, so arguing with one particular individual over whether they are going to donate a single pound seems a little pointless.

Incidentally, I'd love to come along and donate from my meagre (remaining overdraft limit Sad

), were I not busy with goodness knows what uni work and only a 125 to travel a long distance on.
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Demonic69 · The Pink Rhino Joined: 31 May 2002 Karma :

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

No I (me personally) do not have a problem with paying £1 to go one something like that. I just think it's daft saying that if you just want to donate a toy for whatever reason then you're not welcomed, surely something is better than nothing.