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[scorps]

Long story cut short, other half reported an item at work that needed repair to his supervisor and was told to put split pins in it. Today was the annual safety meeting and outstanding issues were discussed, one of them being the bodge repair to the swans neck. My hubby was pulled in and told he shouldnt have been using it and told by his manager he was suspended on full pay while an investigation was carried out.
he wasnt given any opportunity to say anything but after getting home and building himself up into a rage about it he fired off an email to his manager about the fact that he had reported it and was told to put in the pins, he also stated that he felt he was being made a scapegoat because in the weeks that it has been in use, he wasnt the only one using it and that infact the supervisor who told him to pin it has been using it regularly too. He kept his cool in the email aand acknowleged that he should be responsible for health and safety issues but in reality if he refused to do something he got his balls chewed either way so was going to get a bollocking whatever he did. he stated that it shouldnt have all been laid on his shoulders as he wasnt the only one doing it.
hes never been suspended before and is the one person who will put the additional hours in whenever asked and help out other departments at the drop of a hat too. Ive always thought they take the piss abit becasue he is so laid back about doing all the crap others wont but im pretty pissed off about this and have told him to stand his corner. We have no idea whats happening regards the investigation but if his manager ignores the email do we take it higher, hes been with the company for just shy of two years.
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[RPM]

Hi

Not sure what his work situation actually is in terms of his relationships with others including managers and/or supervsors etc, but:

If he is in a trade union, then inform them immediately...if not, check the ACAS website regarding procedures and time frame, investigations usually take far too long to complete.

Unless instructed not to... then continue to communicate via email, but keep copies of all correspondence (electronic and printed copies) just in case the manager gets amnesia or edits any emails for forwarding to the investigation team....if they really do exist).

Find out who is conducting any investigation (internal or external process?), this might highlight any potential conflicts of interest, which might influence the outcome.

Was his supervisor suspended too? should've been on grounds of integrity and transparency.

Is the company a national (policies/protocols etc) or a local one?

See GP, if he thinks this might strengthen his case, (just to discuss his feelings regarding the situation he has found himself in as a result of carrying out direct instructions from a senior colleague etc)

Be prepared to take the matter to the HSE, if he thinks that the outcome of any investigation is likely to lead to dismissal for breaching any H&S regulations...ie: scapegoating.

Apologies if you already know all this. Hope this helps.

All the best
Mike

[yambabe]

Get him to go back to being chilled and not get so wound up!

Suspension for investigation into an H&S issue is standard.

In the circumstances you have described worst case scenario is likely to be a written warning on his record for 6 or 12 months which basically amounts to "don't do that again".

There has been no RIDDOR incident, it's just procedure. They won't take it further.
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[scorps]

right the email that got sent to his boss has been forwarded to his HR rep who sat in on the meeting. He has explained in the email to her that he felt that he was treated unfairly and wants to make sure that by including her in the loop then his side of things cant be ignored or swept under the carpet by his supervisor or manager. it is a huge oil company so we are hoping they investigate his supervisor over this. The thing with my other half is that he is very quiet due to the injury he sustained to his voice box in his crash and people tend to mistake that quietness for either stupidity or lack of balls. i believe this email is going to totally throw his manager. It means he can not just take the supervisors side without questioning it or his motives.
I have explained to my other half that this is going to mean he now has to stand his ground and be prepared to make waves instead of his usual head down and just accepting things without standing up for himself.
My hubby is very popular with his workmates because hes a decent grafter who they can rely on. We know they would back his version of what happened against the supervisor if they were asked questions.
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[Polarbear]

I work for an oil major and have also been both on the investigative side and the 'naughty' side of H&S investigations.

One thing I can say for sure is it will be done by the book. He will have his say and all aspects of the case will be investigated.

Oil majors are paranoid about negative publicity, especially to do with HSE.
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[scorps]

You will know the scenario well then Polar, his supervisor is a logistics co ordinater brought into the materials dept to fill a space he has no experience in, not tolerated very well by the blokes who know their job inside out and for some reason he has taken my blokes quietness for weakness and saw him as an easy target to drop in the shite to save his own arse.

We got a call from one of the lads tonight asking him if the rumour hed finally snapped and laid the supervisor out were true, quickly put straight on that one though. i gather from that, that my bloke has taken more shite off this bloke than hes admitted to even though he has come home on more than one occasion and said he wants to seal him in a container and send him offshore.
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Make today blowjob and steak day to cheer him up! You know it makes sense!
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Make sure any disciplinary meetings are witnessed and minuted.

Any other meetings they may request while on suspension are not disciplinary and therefore do not happen.

Just have to hope they've actually dropped their blacklist system like they say they have. Back in the 80's and 90's, anyone who made waves in a large oil company in Aberdeen (be that whistle blowing or really anything to do with H&S) found it impossable to get another job in that sector. It eventually came out that they were keeping a blacklist.

Happened to one of my Dads employees (they sub-contracted people onto rigs), he reported the fact that the launch mechanism for over half the lifeboats on one rig were corroded past any possability of launching them. His offshore ticket was immediately revoked and he was never allowed on a rig again.
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[scorps]

Weve seen that happen a lot up here, but theres seems to be a definate clash with the new supervisor and my hubby. Seems to be more an offshore thing rather than onshore workers but hes got all his big forklift and crane tickets so worst case scenario he would get something else. Just not nice to have someone deliberately stitching you up to try and keep the shit from their own door. Just a matter of waiting it out really.
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[scorps]

well tomorrow is hubbys turn to put his side of it to his manager and HR,
its pretty much straight forward as in the supervisor instructed him to make a repair then two weeks later informed him that he is reporting him for using it.

Hubby was with another work colleague at the time the repair was requested and this fellow had been using it along with my hubby up until the supervisor dropped him in it.

I doubt very much that the supervisor will say thats what happened but if his colleague sticks up for him and he stands his ground we are hoping he may not even get a disciplinary just a smacked wrist.
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Scorps I love you but please use more line breaks and paragraphs and things

I really want to read your posts but I just see a wall of text and my brain just tells me to go fuck myself
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[scorps]

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[pepperami]

Having been in a situation were supervisors have bent the rules/lied to suit themselves , I have some idea how the OP`s partner feels.

firstly I would suggest he sits down with a piece of paper and try to remember all/any issues and write them down as an aid-memiour for when people try telling him he did this or did`nt do that.

Bitter experiance has bitten me on the arse to many times and for the last 13 years I have always had a work diary.
Silly as it may seem , any doubts/issues/disagreements are put in my diary.
It has put me in the clear a couple of times in the past when other employees have lied about a job and tried to pass the buck onto me, Iwas able to tell the manager where I was, what job I was on , and who I was with.

Easy to say this now and it does`nt help the current situation.
However, sitting down and writing all he can remember might help when he goes for interview/meeting.
Do what I did, put a dictafone on the table and record the meeting.
You may be able to use what is said to your advantage at any further hearings/meetings/appeals/legal actions.
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[scorps]

he has taken in a written statement of events with him, im sat here at work feeling sick with nerves for him as he is at this moment in the meeting
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[Bomberman]

Bit late, but best of luck and hope it went well
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[evoboy]

Watching with interest.

I've had similar happen recently, but i got sacked without any reason or verbal, written, or final warnings....
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[Zen Dog]

I had a job where the boss decided he wanted rid of me after 3 years (I presume because brought up the unfullfilled promises made when I started), and basically trumped up charges against me. I kept my job (final written warning), but I knew it wouldn't last, so I just made the best of it and got out when it suited me rather than him.

Also, I was careful not to use "But everyone was doing it!" as a defence (regardless of it being completely true), because it might have resulted in them being disciplined as well, which tends not to make you popular with your workmates.

Sad to say, but if your boss decides he doesn't like you, most of the time you're screwed, regardless of actual merit. If it gets serious, it may well come down to the witness workmate, will he stick up for your OH and call his boss a liar if it comes to the crunch? Nevertheless, hope your other half bucks the trend and gets a good result.

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[scorps]

I hope so too Zen, hes really popular at work, his manager gets on fine with him too, its this supervisor. I think we have a new face in trying to throw their weight about, my fella is very quiet due to his accident years ago and his speech never really recovered properly. he can sometimes be seen as a soft target because he is quiet. everyones saying not to worry at the most it will be a slap on the wrist at the moment. Trying not to dwell on it too much but hes still getting paid. What he isnt doing is washing my bike for me while hes off
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