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8316
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 14 Nov 2004    Post subject: now i've got my test booked! Reply with quote

been looking at lots of topics recently, and many of them have been about tests and so on, so i though, why don't i do it? booked it today for this thursday at 8.40.
like the others, im getting a little worried about failing on the supid u-turn, but i would like to know more about lifesavers. i was talking to my brother and he said you need to look over your right shoulder whenever the scenario changes, e.g speed limit change. but what about turning left into minor roads? do you check both shoulders? and what about the emergency stop? if you lock up the rear through excessive engine braking, what will happen?
any more information would be greatly appreciated.
sorry this is a bit long! Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 14 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your instructor should go into great lengths as to when to do your life saver. If he or she doesn't, ask them, it can't hurt.

When you do an emergency stop and your rear wheel locks up just gently ease of and reapply, but it does also depend on what type of braking system you have. When I took my test, the bike had a drum brake on the rear which I don't know about any one else but I found it very hard too lock up. But since I've owned my own larger bike which has disc brakes I found just gentle application of the rear brake and control it using the front brake, but again your instructor should go through all this with you. Just remember everybody is different and the instructor may give you hint to help your particular braking abilities.

Hope this helps, good luck and let me know how it goes. Smile
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 14 Nov 2004    Post subject: Re: now i've got my test booked! Reply with quote

8316 wrote:
i was talking to my brother and he said you need to look over your right shoulder whenever the scenario changes, e.g speed limit change.


Don't know about doing any lifesavers when the speed limit changes but yes, always check your mirrors, whether going up or down in speed limits, check your mirrors. More of a shoulder check than a lifesaver if you WERE to move your head at all. Changing lanes, lifesaver, yes. Turning left or right at a junction, yes, lifesaver. Roundabouts? left life saver when approaching, left when leaving. Anymore is up to you, whatever makes you comfortable, just don't look around erratically at the last moment. Approach junctions at the correct speed, so you can get the correct observations done in time. Smile

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but what about turning left into minor roads? do you check both shoulders?


Turning left, you'd look over your left shoulder about 2 car lengths before the turning, obviously if you have to stop, then do another lifesaver if you're JUSt about to turn.

8316 wrote:
and what about the emergency stop? if you lock up the rear through excessive engine braking, what will happen?


As said above, if you lock it up, remina calm, release the back brake then reapply, quickly but smoothly. Want to demonstrate that you're in control of the bike. My training bike also has a drum brake at the back, hasnt locked up on me yet. Just remember when you do your emergency stop. Clutch in at the last moment so you don't stall, check your mirrors ONCE you've stopped, then move the bike to the side of the road with your legs. Then put the bike into neutral. In that order. Don't change down as you're braking, the examiner won't like that. Nor should you change gear once you've stopped, remember you're in the middle of the road, get to the side ASAP, no time to fiddle about with gears and what not.


8316 wrote:
any more information would be greatly appreciated.
sorry this is a bit long! Laughing


Not long at all, hell, we all need help at times, I've got my test on tuesday !!!!!!! Smile Can't wait Very Happy

Good luck with the test !!!
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 15 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks a lot people really helpul stuff Thumbs Up . i was getting worried as my only instructor is you guys!. ive been riding for 8 months now on my gs and could do without paying for training, so i hope i pass first time! Laughing

does anyone know if a sticker L plate is acceptable if placed on the screen? my fork one broke off, and i don't have a proper replacement, so should it be alright?
cheers Wink
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 15 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread has answered about 5 q's i had so ta for that! Smile
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 15 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa, you got a test pretty quickly? I was always under the illusion that you have to wait a long time to take a test, or is this just a theory? Smile
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 15 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope! its practical. booked on saturday for thursday. 5 days ain't bad! well, its a short notice one, so if examiner is away, i lose my 48 pounds. nearest normal test booking was 1st of december, so it wasn't too bad.
3 days to go! Cool
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 15 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told that the braking exercise is just that, a braking exercise and not an emergancy stop. You should not be braking hard enough to lock up. Remember, you're not expected do more than 20mph when aproaching the examiner, and if it's wet you may go slower. Stop in a straight line, and do not worry about mirrors or shoulder checks, as it is the examiner's responcibility to check for other traffic. However, when you pull into the side of the road afterwards, you must first remember to look and do mirrors, and also do a left lifesaver.

This conflicts with what Instigator says, but i always downshifted whilst stopping during both training and test, and was never told off for this. I was also told ride the bike into the side of the road. Whichever advice you take, make sure you do the required checks first, since both ways are equally safe if you do.


Another thing that I thought important, was that when the examiner tells you to pull into the side, you should select the place yourself. You do not need to pull into a slightly dodgy place, if you can see a better space further up. This is important for the U-Turn, since if there are lots of parked cars about you'll find it difficult to check the road is clear properly. The exception to this is if the examiner specifically tells you to pull up behind something. On my test i was asked to pull up behind a parked car, which i guess was to test my safety/observation when pulling out behind an obstruction. Whatever you do, do not forget all the rules about stopping when you get back to the test center, as the the examiner may tell you stop on the road. I rode a fair way past the center in order to stop in the easiest place - If you were to stop near a junction, or infront of somebody's drive, then he would fault you for it.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 17 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

well this is it. by the time i talk to you guys, i hope to be rid of my L plates forever! been a little worried Rolling Eyes so i didn't fill my tank up to avoid failing in the u-turn! Smile a little desperate, but you can never be too safe! wish me luck!
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 17 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider yourself wished luck... Very Happy Go for it!
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 17 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, how did it go?
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 17 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nath wrote:
i always downshifted whilst stopping during both training and test, and was never told off for this


I know it's a bit late for 8316 to say it now, but when I did my test 18 months ago I got a minor for changing down during the emergency stop... so I'd say it's a definite no-no.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 17 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

not really late, as the test is thursday, and today is wednesday!!
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 17 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah.... whoops Embarassed Smile
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