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If you can't stop in the distance you can see, you're going too fast. Hit something, it's your fault. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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This happened to smiler, came round a bend to a broken down car and ended up binning it, im pretty sure he tried to claim off the insurance of the council for putting a bend there. ____________________ GOOD GAME BODYGUARD: https://i.imgur.com/8WePGgf.jpg
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I differ. If you are broken down on the road you are supposed to put out a warning triangle. Even someone travelling at well within the speed limit can detect an obstructed object. Especially in fog, night, blind rise, sharp obstructed bend etc
Negligence is on the driver who didn't give ample warning of an obstruction.
The closest I came to rear ending someone was in the supermarket. I was walking down an aisle and got distracted and walked straight into the back of a huge fat woman. I'm not a small ou and a solid 95 kg (15 or 16 stone you poms would say?) former rugby prop but it was like hitting an immovable object. Outweighed me by far, with diameter makinbg up for lack of height. Brought me to dead stop and bonce back as if I had hit an All Black scrum.. I apologised but she didn't seem upset and smiled. Guess it wake a hit by a Casspir to dislodge that woman.
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Slightly OT, but:-
| The Shaggy D.A. wrote: | If you can't stop in the distance you can see, you're going too fast. Hit something, it's your fault. |
| Black Sheep wrote: | Technically you should be looking to stop within half the distance you can see, as the other half could be someone elses' braking distance who is just out of sight. |
This is all very well in theory, and ticks all the 'elf & safety boxes, but in reality it's bollox!!!!!
If all road users did this traffic would, simply, grind to a halt.
Riding or driving, is a calculated risk, a risk you accept whenever you take a vehicle on the road.
Whether you like it or not, you have come to a decision about the amount of risk you're prepared to accept every time you venture out.
As shite as it sounds, whenever you're on the road, you have to put, at least, some trust in other road users, if we didn't, we'd all be walking!
It doesn't matter how much training you've had, how cautious you are, how much gear you're wearing, you simply cannot negate every possible risk.
| Quote: | Accident:-
An unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury. |
I CBA looking it up, but let's say 2500 people die on Britain's roads every year, the H&S brigade bang on, constantly, about reducing that number. It might be possible to reduce that number, but "accidents" do happen, with the amount of vehicles on the road, they're bound to, there's buggerall anyone can do about it.
As regular road users we have accepted that the annual death toll on the roads, is a price worth paying.
If you disagree with that why do you own a bike or a car?
We all ride bikes, we've all accepted that if we're involved in an "accident", the chances are we're going to get injured.
In my case, the grin factor, of owning and riding bikes is justification enough to accept the, inherent, risks! ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!" 
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | Slightly OT, but:-
| The Shaggy D.A. wrote: | If you can't stop in the distance you can see, you're going too fast. Hit something, it's your fault. |
| Black Sheep wrote: | Technically you should be looking to stop within half the distance you can see, as the other half could be someone elses' braking distance who is just out of sight. |
This is all very well in theory, and ticks all the 'elf & safety boxes, but in reality it's bollox!!!!!
If all road users did this traffic would, simply, grind to a halt.
Riding or driving, is a calculated risk, a risk you accept whenever you take a vehicle on the road.
Whether you like it or not, you have come to a decision about the amount of risk you're prepared to accept every time you venture out.
As shite as it sounds, whenever you're on the road, you have to put, at least, some trust in other road users, if we didn't, we'd all be walking!
It doesn't matter how much training you've had, how cautious you are, how much gear you're wearing, you simply cannot negate every possible risk.
| Quote: | Accident:-
An unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury. |
I CBA looking it up, but let's say 2500 people die on Britain's roads every year, the H&S brigade bang on, constantly, about reducing that number. It might be possible to reduce that number, but "accidents" do happen, with the amount of vehicles on the road, they're bound to, there's buggerall all anyone can do about it.
As regular road users we have accepted that the annual death toll on the roads, is a price worth paying.
If you disagree with that why do you own a bike or a car?
We all ride bikes, we've all accepted that if we're involved in an "accident", the chances are we're going to get injured.
In my case, the grin factor, of owning and riding bike is justification enough to accept the, inherent, risks! |
A good analysis.
I'd just like to add that for many of us it's the very fact of the danger that appeals, because it's one of the few remaining ways we can give the finger (to whatever takes our fancy).
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stopping distance is something that annoys me somewhat, every morning on the dual carriageway to work I am ALWAYS the only vehicle giving adequate distance to the car in front, everyone else drives at 70 and stay about 6 feet from each others bumpers  ____________________ Current: Honda City Fly CLR125 2003 Honda CB600F Hornet 2008 Yamaha FZ6 S2 + 1991 Kawasaki GPZ500
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 46 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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