Thoughts on the new CBR500R

[moleson01]

Hey Guys,

New rider working towards my license and still haven't bought a bike.

Looking around and the New Honda CBR500R seems like a dream...
Great looks, Affordable and right at the top end of the restriction for an A2 license.

Anyone see or think of any issues with this bike or value etc?


Cheers

Moleson

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Lots of plastic to smash if you're a novice.

I want to get a ride on one to see what it's like.
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[Polarbear]

It's a mid sized Honda, I'm sure it will be pretty good and pretty boring.

I'd quite like to have one next to a GPZ500 and see how much more advanced the 500 class has become. I doubt I'd be very impressed.

Saying all that, as a first large bike, I'm sure you will find it superb. How long you will keep that love, I suppose depends on what you are after but there is no doubt it is a very pretty bike, especially with her mounted on it
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I'm not sure what other bikes will fit in the power category - but I'm sure there are much better secondhand deals out there.

So you'd have to really like the styling to be throwing a load of money away on depreciation away on one.

[moleson01]

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Were it me, I think I'd be looking at options for DIY-restriction.

If I wanted something a bit sporty looking with some 'potential', I'd consider a SV650 or maybe a TRX850 for a bit more 'character'.

Both will probably have better suspension in the first place and can be made even better.

[moleson01]

They both look very nice actually

- how would you go around a DIY restrictor

only reason i would get it is for proof to insurance so paper work would be preferable to prove its restricted

[Polarbear]

If the rules are anything like the present restriction rules, you print out a certificate form your Janet & John printing programme. Fill in whatever bit's you want and send it to the insurance if they ask for it!

What you actually do to your bike is open to interpretation.
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[moleson01]

then that has made the trx850 all the more appealing



any things to look out for on these bikes (obvious wear and tear aside) are there any common faults?

[Musketeer]

I think the new CBR500R/X/whatever will serve its purpose and a first big bike for those who pass A2, and probably it can be quite a decent commuter as well. CBR500R looks nice from the distance.

I cannot say I'm the target market though
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[Pigeon]

80mpg
0-60 sub 6 seconds
105mph top speed
175kg dry

£5,000 with likely 0% finance

It might not be a Hayabusa, but this is pretty much exactly the type of bike I was wishing was on the market.

It'll spank a Golf GTI where it counts (ie not Santa Pod), will be light a flickable in the B's, yet easy on the wallet returning the kind of MPG that a DULL Citroen C1 can.

Bikes were always cheap transport, until early 00's. Then they became weekend play things. Don't get me wrong, I'd luv a GSXR-750 or 675R. But I don't have the skill or the cash.

The CBR500R might be dull. But it's the bike I've been waiting for and WILL get my test passed this year to get one.

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But you've got the cash to afford the depreciation on a new bike?
Which makes the good fuel economy a bit pointless.

Your list doesn't justify it over a GPZ500S, which has been out for many, many years.

You don't need 'skill' to ride a sports bike - just self control.
Can get a GSXR750 from £1k - under £3.5k for a 675.
Maybe you don't get 0%, but you get a lot less depreciation, so a bank loan's interest may well still leave you better off in the end.

[Pigeon]

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[Musketeer]

I agree. With fuel prices high, you think you will save by buying new economical bike. But the truth is it's a false economy and the value of the bike will depreciate at multiple rate compared to the difference you would pay on petrol and some maintenance and repairs. Also as mentioned above the insurance is going to be cheaper on used £1k bike.

You lose way too much money by buying new. You may be fooling yourself how much you going to save... But you have to pay £4k more upfront which you probably forget about
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[calamitymaud]

Have to agree with a previous poster - as a first large bike, this will be pretty sweet.

But you will lose out buying new. You will.
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[Polarbear]

I haven't ridden one, but if I was paying that sort of money for a commuter, what does one of these 700's cost?

Not as sporty though so I suppose it'd just a matter of choice.

Actually, forget that, they are going to be well outside the power to weight requirements aren't they.
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[jjdugen]

i try to buy my 'projects' at rock bottom price, make them good and sell at a proffit. Three or so years ago, that was a good business model. Now whats left of the 'affordables' (after Johhny Rumania / Poland/ Lithuania) has taken his lorry loads back home are either high priced good condition, or absolute sheds/ moneypits.
The option of buying new is not such a daft idea at the budget end of things, bikes that are now ten - fifteen, even twenty years old ARE going to need some financial input. Add to that the requirement for reliability, that depreciation at the budget end is not as harsh as at the high end, 0% finance, free services..... Its becoming a hard call to make.
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[kramdra]

Ah, but consider that a CBR250RR made 25 years ago will have 45hp and be 30-40 kg lighter, and actually deserves the title of sport bike.

I did bid on this, but lacking funds I knew I wouldnt get it. + the seller is an arse, wouldnt let me view it. I suspect its fucked

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBR-250-RR-MC19-/321085742967

[Musketeer]

[jjdugen]

I don't want to piss on anyones chips, but...... A 25 year old motorcycle, even one with (claimed) low miles will have some level of deterioration. Paint will have chipped or faded, cables hardened, both control and, more importantly, electrical. You are dealing with older technologies too, ECU failure on such a rarity will cost an arm and a leg. And, lets face it, something that HAS to be revved into the stratosphere to even move is hardly a new user friendly option.
For all the excitement a mini CBR might generate, its actually no faster that the CBR500.
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[Rogerborg]

I quite like the idea of the new CB500 (and I'm not calling it anything else).

Sure, if budget is your primary concern, then an older bike makes more sense, but some people just want to be the first to rub their crotch on a seat. And yes, you could get something more powerful and restrict it down, but after 2 years you'll likely be wanting to try something new rather than just pull the restrictors out.

If you're one of the half dozen folk with the new A2 license and money to spend, you could do worse.
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[moleson01]

What are peoples thoughts on the old vfr400's (nc24-30) then given a majority of people think older bikes are a better option for a new rider - and a restictor on those is super easy to put in and out?

plus personally i think they look awesome