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 Posted: 00:47 - 16 Mar 2013 Post subject: Online Stock Broker recommendations/experiences |
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Ok, I am about to dip my toe in the stock market.
I am NOT going to be doing a lot of trading, I intend to hold the selected stock for the medium term, I don't have the time or inclination to spend my time monitoring obscure startups in Lahore, so those products intended for the gamblers out there are not for me.
We are also not talking big amounts of money here - put it this way, you would struggle to buy a new bike with my investment fund, unless it was a Chinese jobby.
What I do want is reliability, security, low charges and ease of use. Part of me thinks to just pick the one with the lowest £/trade and be done with it, but it hurts not to ask the BCF massive for their collective experience.
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You are pretty much in the same boat as me then (tho a bit richer ).
Read this from moneysavingexpert about ISA's linky.
In essence you can pay in up to £11k to a stocks and shares ISA, and with self select ISAs you can decide what shares or funds that money is invested in, and change that mix as much as you like (tho transaction fees apply).
Looks as tho you can also withdraw some or all of the funds from a stocks and shares ISA at any point without losing the tax benefit.
HOWEVER I have only really started looking at this over the past 2 hours or so, no doubt I've probably missed something!!!  |
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| D O G wrote: | You are pretty much in the same boat as me then (tho a bit richer  ).
Read this from moneysavingexpert about ISA's linky.
In essence you can pay in up to £11k to a stocks and shares ISA, and with self select ISAs you can decide what shares or funds that money is invested in, and change that mix as much as you like (tho transaction fees apply).
Looks as tho you can also withdraw some or all of the funds from a stocks and shares ISA at any point without losing the tax benefit.
HOWEVER I have only really started looking at this over the past 2 hours or so, no doubt I've probably missed something!!!  |
I'm in a standard stocks and shares ISA where you just dictate the risk level and leave it to the experts.
Other than that, I have shares, but I don't play the field, I put it in 'safe' companies and take the dividend. I put it in oil companies and regard it as a savings scheme. Any dividend I get goes back in shares.
I would love to have a dabble but a) I don't know what I'm doing and b) it seems you have to risk a lot to gain a little.
Saying that, with the shit interest rates for savers, now is probably the best time to take the risk. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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No idea how it works, but in Australia you must may into a pension fund when you're working (they call it a superannuation account). So when I was there, I had to pay contributions to this. I got to choose what sort of account I had, I chose the 'standard' one. It wasn't just a pension because they also invested it somehow as well. It was classed as low risk.
I've been back in the UK for a while now. I only worked in Oz for about 7 months, and in total paid about $1000 into the fund. Now that I'm back home, I can withdraw the funds from that and have the money given back to me. When I got a letter from them to explain the process, it said my balance was around $2000. So in 7 months this 'investment' had a 100% turnaround! No idea if they'll take a load of commission or whatever, or maybe they won't pay me anything other than the original $1000 I put in, but either way, it's quite an increase.
Dunno where I'm going with this. Just though I'd share it. It's just interesting because the company were primarily concerned with pensions, I chose the lowest risk account, yet they still managed to double the balance. I dunno if it's to do with the vast wealth of Australia, of maybe they were just very good at what they did. |
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| sa1988 wrote: | No idea how it works, but in Australia you must may into a pension fund when you're working (they call it a superannuation account). So when I was there, I had to pay contributions to this. I got to choose what sort of account I had, I chose the 'standard' one. It wasn't just a pension because they also invested it somehow as well. It was classed as low risk.
I've been back in the UK for a while now. I only worked in Oz for about 7 months, and in total paid about $1000 into the fund. Now that I'm back home, I can withdraw the funds from that and have the money given back to me. When I got a letter from them to explain the process, it said my balance was around $2000. So in 7 months this 'investment' had a 100% turnaround! No idea if they'll take a load of commission or whatever, or maybe they won't pay me anything other than the original $1000 I put in, but either way, it's quite an increase.
Dunno where I'm going with this. Just though I'd share it. It's just interesting because the company were primarily concerned with pensions, I chose the lowest risk account, yet they still managed to double the balance. I dunno if it's to do with the vast wealth of Australia, of maybe they were just very good at what they did. |
There could have potentially been employer contributions, or tax rebates? |
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I have used:
Selftrade
The Share Centre
Hargreave and Lansdown
IG Index
Selftrade and TSC have the most comprehensive platforms and data research options.
I started to "invest" in 2007. I used a combination of about 20 criteria that a company must pass to invest in. Low gearing, minimum of £20m Market Cap, no CEO or CIO or CFO departures, no exec option sells, no profit warnings, good sector performance etc etc
I used to work at a finance firm who bought Gilts and funds.
So into the mix I added some spreadsheet forumla to track these possibles and target entry and exit prices.
It started well. I had a bio-fuels firm that doubled in value in a month. An oil exploration company quadrupled over 9mths, same for a 3d printing firm. But the rest went either bankrupt, boards issued positive trading statements on Friday and announced bankruptcy on Monday. Some boards announced profits warnings out of nowhere, collapsed the company SP and bought the company out themselves at a fraction of the price.
Then the crash happened.
I started with £12k, after 6 mths it was £15k. After 18mths it was £5k.
In 2008 I switched to IG Index and used leverage to gamble on some key FTSE100 stocks, but predominantly Index Futures. Holding positions for no more than 15 days, but the majority were day trades based purely on maths. £5k became £8k by Spring 2009.
But the "excitement" and time commitment meant I stopped. I occasionally dive into Vodafone Futures, but instead of 350 trades a year I now do about 3.
Sold everything and bought a pedal bike. Best thing I did in years.
Although ironically, the markets have (pretty much) gone up ever since. Engorged on a rich diet of free money and currency devaluation.
Sorry, too much waffle there. In the end you will either sink or swim.
But be aware that all boats rise when the tide comes in, and all fall again when it goes out. Trouble is, unless your a natural, it's not easy to know at what point the market is at. My guess, is it's nearer the end of the bull cycle than the beginning.
Avoid small-cap shares if your looking at an ISA. Unless you really are sure of a company, it's suicide. Don't touch AIM with a barge pole. It's the wild west. Stick to FTSE-350
Don't bother if you don't have £3k min. Only do 3 trades, don't spread yourself too thin.
Ahh bollox. You'll get told 1,000 things with everyone bringing their own prejudice's and experiences to the table. In the end, you can only do what you think is best.
Good luck fella. It's a casino full of sharks out there and the game is stacked in favour of the house. The house, as ever, never loses. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 333 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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