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sickpup
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Cheap(ish) socket set and other bits. Reply with quote
Lost a Facom ratchet about a year back and finally got around to replacing it with this complete set. A new ratchet by itself is £20 or so and the set was £50 with the postage.

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I also picked these up the other day just for removing races from headstocks.

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skylineonfire
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Halfords have their lifetime warranty pro tools on brilliant offers at the moment too, 120pc for 79.99 etc
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
skylineonfire wrote:
Halfords have their lifetime warranty pro tools on brilliant offers at the moment too, 120pc for 79.99 etc


Totally different classes. Compare a Facom spanner or socket to a Halfords one and they make the Halfords ones look and feel heavy and badly made.

Facom also have a lifetime warranty.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I only buy Snap-on, because i'm worth it!
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
zx10r-Alan wrote:
I only buy Snap-on, because i'm worth it!


I don't because they aren't. I also refuse to make anymore Snap-On men obese, its just cruel.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
zx10r-Alan wrote:
I only buy Snap-on, because i'm worth it!


I don't because they aren't.

They're not worth it for a home mechanic, but in the trade its different.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Cheap(ish) socket set and other bits. Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
A new ratchet by itself is £20 or so and the set was £50 with the postage.



That's cheap for a set Thumbs Up still haven't got over paying £8 just for a single Facom 19mm socket around 15 years ago when I needed a good car wheel nut socket after breaking cheaper ones. Never failed me though and still looks pristine.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I picked one of these blue point service kits up for £60 on the bay

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PostPosted: 00:06 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fisty wrote:
I picked one of these blue point service kits up for £60 on the bay

https://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/coiloverkid/IMG_20121208_065500.jpg


Very nice!

I was tempted to get the halfords profession tool kits, I've used one at college and it seems pretty decent (I also get Halfords trade discount) snap on is most likely too expensive, and I don't really know any other brands.
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jersum wrote:
Fisty wrote:
I picked one of these blue point service kits up for £60 on the bay

https://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/coiloverkid/IMG_20121208_065500.jpg


Very nice!

I was tempted to get the halfords profession tool kits, I've used one at college and it seems pretty decent (I also get Halfords trade discount) snap on is most likely too expensive, and I don't really know any other brands.


Look out for another one of those.

It's Div 2 Snap On and it was double that price when it was on special offer.
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PostPosted: 02:01 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
zx10r-Alan wrote:

They're not worth it for a home mechanic, but in the trade its different.

Yeah... if you can offset it against your tax bill as a business cost, it makes total sense.

Anyone who actually pays for Snap On tools out of their own money is a fool. You can get tools that are just as good for a fraction of the price.
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PostPosted: 06:12 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
covent.gardens wrote:
zx10r-Alan wrote:

They're not worth it for a home mechanic, but in the trade its different.

Yeah... if you can offset it against your tax bill as a business cost, it makes total sense.

Anyone who actually pays for Snap On tools out of their own money is a fool. You can get tools that are just as good for a fraction of the price.

i wasnt able to offset the cost against tax. i started my mechanics career with halfords & draper tools, but soon realised how much better snap-on were. Imagine, you have a customer's car on a ramp and your Halfords spanner breaks. You have to get in your own car, drive to Halfords, swap the spanner, return to work. You only do that a couple of times before you throw the broken halfords spanner away and replace it with a snap-on one. I still have some of my original halfords & draper tools, but the majority are snap-on.
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PostPosted: 07:50 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
zx10r-Alan wrote:
They're not worth it for a home mechanic, but in the trade its different.


I was a service manager in a bike shop.

The days are long gone when Snap On were (perceived to be) the only good quality kit out there and a mechanic was required to have a full Snap On tool kit along with all F1 and other race teams using only Snap On.
These days race teams in F1, MOTO GP and other classes are more likely to be using Facom, MAC or Beta tools than Snap On as are the European Factories where the bikes and cars are made.
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You're all losers. Everyone knows these are the best tools out there:

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PostPosted: 08:40 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
zx10r-Alan wrote:
They're not worth it for a home mechanic, but in the trade its different.



The days are long gone when Snap On were (perceived to be) the only good quality kit out there
Every guy I know that actively fixes motors (I deal with a lot of tradesmen/mechanics/bodyshops/dealers etc say 'na i'm ok mate' to the Snap-On rep that pops by. Infact one branch I work from have a Just Car Clinic next door and the Snap-Off Rep only comes by monthly now.

My uncle was a bike mechanic for a few years in an independent garage and had a full on SnapOn kit he spend hundreds on but just replaced and stopped using. Karma
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
By contrast, everyone I know uses Snap On.

Just where I am, there are 5 repair business and nobody but Snappy gets a look in, to the extent that the Mac rep for my area threw in the towel last year and no replacement has appeared.

They are high quality tools and until someone comes along and offers a better service, we will keep buying them.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
You complain about having to go to halfords to swap the broken tool, how would you go about replacing the snap on one? when the customers car is on the ramps?
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
PhilDawson8270 wrote:
You complain about having to go to halfords to swap the broken tool, how would you go about replacing the snap on one? when the customers car is on the ramps?

Snap-on tools don't break. That's why people who depend on them buy them.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
zx10r-Alan wrote:
Snap-on tools don't break. That's why people who depend on them buy them.


Yes they do and they wear out as well. I have a worn out 8mm 3/8ths socket on my socket tray.

Using Facom I have only ever had to do one warranty on a set of pliers that had a tiny bit of peeling chrome on the tips, changed no questions asked.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
zx10r-Alan wrote:
Snap-on tools don't break. That's why people who depend on them buy them.


Of the 2 tools I used, one broke Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
zx10r-Alan wrote:
PhilDawson8270 wrote:
You complain about having to go to halfords to swap the broken tool, how would you go about replacing the snap on one? when the customers car is on the ramps?

Snap-on tools don't break. That's why people who depend on them buy them.



Laughing

Ive snapped a Snap On socket of the 13mm variety when working on a car. It took most of my hand with it. No it wasnt being used incorrectly.

Ive not broken any tools working on bikes and im doing it 6 days a week. Even Halfords stuff.

I seem to get the impression you are a tart....
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
We used to use a lot of snap-on tools, but not any more.

Currently at my place I have a budget of around £600 for snap-on and I've spent nothing, I'm not saying they're not good, but they're not worth the money that is charged for them. It's designer tools and that is all
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
The only time I broke a snap-on tool was through inappropriate use. The rams on my toolbox recently needed replacement. The box is 18 years old, but did cost over 2k without tools, but they just replaced them.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
evoboy wrote:


I seem to get the impression you are a tart....

I like nice things, and I've worked hard to get what I have.

In '88, I bought a draper 1/4 drive socket set. Before the end of my apprenticeship, the ratchet broke, so I replaced it with a snap-on one. 23 years later, I'm still using the snap-on ratchet along with the draper sockets. Some things are worth spending more money on. And if wanting the best I can afford makes me a tart,i can live with that. Wink
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My Dad has 30+ year old Britool tools, but doesn't mean that I'd go around saying that Britool are number 1 and are the only brand suitable for trade use.
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