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PostPosted: 18:24 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Tailgating an Ambulance Reply with quote

Has anyone done the above 'tail gate an ambulance.

I have myself, I can personally say its hard to resist when your stuck in traffic and all it takes to part the vehicles in front like the red sea is an ambulance with some blue lights on.

Would you say its correct to do so if you keep a safe distance/ position yourself at a point which allows you to see beyond the ambulance, so your not technically tail gating.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You fail if you ride a bike and STILL get stuck in traffic.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

my understanding is its a moving traffic offence.. some ambulances were/are fitted wit cameras and you could in theory be done...
as to wot or how etc. dunno
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:
my understanding is its a moving traffic offence.. some ambulances were/are fitted wit cameras and you could in theory be done...
as to wot or how etc. dunno


i would only imagine if you was tailgaiting and the ambulance was doing over hte speed limit would it be an offence ? it is not an offence to drive behind someone lol
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:
my understanding is its a moving traffic offence.. some ambulances were/are fitted wit cameras and you could in theory be done...
as to wot or how etc. dunno


That's why we don't have plates on the front Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeteLockwood wrote:
Copycat73 wrote:
my understanding is its a moving traffic offence.. some ambulances were/are fitted wit cameras and you could in theory be done...
as to wot or how etc. dunno


i would only imagine if you was tailgaiting and the ambulance was doing over hte speed limit would it be an offence ? it is not an offence to drive behind someone lol


OP said tailgate so if he did then

ambulances regularly exceed the speed limit
the sounding of sirens and flashing lights is to facilitate this,
often they go through Red lights aswell.

so if caught on camera Question
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sambrady96 wrote:
Copycat73 wrote:
my understanding is its a moving traffic offence.. some ambulances were/are fitted wit cameras and you could in theory be done...
as to wot or how etc. dunno


That's why we don't have plates on the front Very Happy


Bugger it overtook me and i did go a tad bit over the speed limit.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

but is it an offence to exceed the speed limit so as to facilitate the passing of an emergency vehicle which would have been held up if you had failed to do so in such an area where there is no suitable place to pull to one side of the road to otherwise get out of its way Failure to do so would have hindered the passing of an emergency vehicle which can in some cases also be deemed to be an offence?

Drivers have been charged with driving without due care for hindering the progress of emergency vehicles...
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're on a road that's wide enough for an ambulance to fit through.... and you're stuck in traffic? On the slimmest class of motorbike? Thinking
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheeky and possibly dangerous; as cars pulling back in to the traffic may not notice you.
Have had an ambulance with blues and twos on the motorway pull over for me, but that didn't impede their progress.

After waiting for an ambulance I'd seen in my mirrors to come past once on the morning commute on the bike I made a point of just staying ahead of them as they are slower than me anyway and you get the cars behind - as well as people thinking you're just going that speed because you're following them.

When one forum member on here crashed and had an ambulance trip to hospital we hoped for a bit of a fun ride behind; but unfortunately the ambulance took it pretty sedately, even stopping at red lights and the light.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Tailgating an Ambulance Reply with quote

illuminateTHEmind wrote:
Has anyone done the above 'tail gate an ambulance.

I have myself, I can personally say its hard to resist when your stuck in traffic and all it takes to part the vehicles in front like the red sea is an ambulance with some blue lights on.

Would you say its correct to do so if you keep a safe distance/ position yourself at a point which allows you to see beyond the ambulance, so your not technically tail gating.


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I mean this is the nicest possible way - but I hope someone pulls out and knocks you off!

Do you have any fucking idea how dangerous this is?! Not to mention that if YOU get knocked off tailgating us, WE have to legally stop!!

Do you even consider the implications of your actions...? What happens if there was a seriously ill person in the back of the ambulance?? YOU would then be single handedly responsible for that patient being drastically delayed in reaching definitive care. Could you live with that on your conscience? The thoughts that through your actions, a person that could have otherwise lived, potentially died...

Lets flip this shall we... Lets say it's YOUR mother/partner/sibling in dire genuine need of an ambulance and someone gets knocked off tailgating me driving under blue lights and sirens on the way to your 999 call. I have to legally stop, inform the police and my ambulance is then impounded until the police release it from the scene. This delays the ambulance reaching your [insert family member here]. What happens then? Your get angry at the time it took for the ambulance to arrive!! But it would have arrived a shit load sooner if some fuckwit didnt tailgate us to beat the traffic!

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PostPosted: 19:14 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, Twat
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I deliberately get past the ambulance in heavy traffic as not only does it slow me down (I'm talking three lane roads and stand still traffic here) but the cars behind that have parted like the red sea have a habit of swinging back into position in an over exaggerated way which can be a bit iffy when I'm filtering like normal behind.

I once saw a car following an ambulance down the A12 near Hackney Wick, stuck right up his chuff, the cars were moving out of the ambulance's way and the car followed before they had a chance to pull back. I hung back in amazement just to see what would happen and how long he could keep it up.

This lasted for about 8 or 900 yards then suddenly the ambulance came to a halt on the flyover near the Olympic Park. One of the paramedics got out, walked to the back of the ambulance and proceeded to shout loudly at the driver. The ambulance then carried on leaving the car driver looking shame faced.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Tailgating an Ambulance Reply with quote

Dick move, daft move, therefore completely in OP's idiom.

The999Kid wrote:
if YOU get knocked off tailgating us, WE have to legally stop!!

Are you actually an ambulancer now? Gratz, I thought you were barred through spazz.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

indeed!
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on the situation.
If the ambulance is blasting through the streets and you are right up its shitter then yes that is a tad silly.
However if its say on a dual carriageway and its jammed with traffic and the ambulance is making slow but steady progress and you aren't on its bumper its not a problem. I have done this with a police car believe it or not.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The999Kid wrote:
indeed!https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/picture0019.jpg

Nice one!

Wait... students get their own dedicated paramedics now? Sponging hippies! Mad
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was watching someone do that I'd think. "What an epic dick"

Therefore that is what I actual do think
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Tailgating an Ambulance Reply with quote

illuminateTHEmind wrote:
Has anyone done the above 'tail gate an ambulance.

I have myself, I can personally say its hard to resist when your stuck in traffic and all it takes to part the vehicles in front like the red sea is an ambulance with some blue lights on.

Would you say its correct to do so if you keep a safe distance/ position yourself at a point which allows you to see beyond the ambulance, so your not technically tail gating.


Years ago on a pushbike I got in the slipstream of a fire engine when going to work one night. Shit I was going fast. Never noticed the fucking indicator and brake lights. Splat. Fire engine turn and drives away and this twat was left in the middle of the road in a heap. Never again I tell you, never again.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Tailgating an Ambulance Reply with quote

illuminateTHEmind wrote:
Has anyone done the above 'tail gate an ambulance.

I have myself, I can personally say its hard to resist when your stuck in traffic and all it takes to part the vehicles in front like the red sea is an ambulance with some blue lights on.

Would you say its correct to do so if you keep a safe distance/ position yourself at a point which allows you to see beyond the ambulance, so your not technically tail gating.


In London it's rude not to!!
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ambulance, Police...

I think OP DIDN'T mean tailgating per-se, I think he meant just follow them before the "red sea" comes back together.

I do it all the time with Police cars, even if they go 40 in a 30, but I always leave the correct distance.

So MR ambulance man above - we can still do this at a safe distance. OP might've meant this instead Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

J7mbo wrote:
Ambulance, Police...

I think OP DIDN'T mean tailgating per-se, I think he meant just follow them before the "red sea" comes back together.

I do it all the time with Police cars, even if they go 40 in a 30, but I always leave the correct distance.

So MR ambulance man above - we can still do this at a safe distance. OP might've meant this instead Thumbs Up


erm Nope!

if you get knocked off by a returning member of the "red sea" as you call it the ambulance is still liable... the only way to remove the ambulance from liability is for it to not be in sight when the incident occurs.

so by all means try and take advantage of us parting traffic, but in the end you'll get further by filtering and progressive riding than trying to follow us. you have to stop for various signals... we are allowed a different approach.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get hit by an ambulance, does another ambulance have to attend?
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
If you get hit by an ambulance, does another ambulance have to attend?


yep, and the original ambulance will be impounded at scene.. and if the now impounded ambulance is carrying a patient, a 3rd ambulance would be needed.
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