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Kawksam
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: kaŵasaki zzr600 Reply with quote

Hello,

Got my self a Kawasaki zzr600 as first big bike and it's stonking for a sports tourer Laughing

back to my point the front brakes arn't the best but adequate and has braided lines already but wondering I've seen people fit Nissin brakes to front wondering if the ones off a cbr900rr the early ones fit and if I need to modify them at all just looking for a straight swap
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moppy
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not entirely sure about the CBR ones, what you need are calipers with 63mm apart mounts.

VTR 1000 (Firestorm) calipers will do the job. As will many others, have a read of this thread (you may need to register).

But they won't just bolt on. You will need to get some shouldered bolts. I can recommend these.

If you get in touch with that seller, he may sell you some rebuilt Nissin calipers & bolts, (everything you need for the conversion) and even take your Tokicos as part exchange. That's what I did.

You will also need to stick a washer between the forks and the calipers to centralise the calipers on the disc.

You MIGHT also need to file off a little bit from the inside of the calipers since the Kawasaki discs are bigger than the ones the Nissins usually sit on. But this depends on which calipers you go for.

I think it is the single best mod you can do to a ZZR. I love the combination of HH pads, braided lines and Nissin 4 pots on mine.
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Kawksam
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what models of Honda will I be looking for that will go straight on with those conversion bolts off eBay.
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moppy
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly don't know. I'm not entirely sure anyone has a definitive answer. You only need to file a couple of mm or so off the edges of the calipers on the inside, otherwise the discs rub on them. Not a big job.
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Mrjoolz
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My brakes on my ZZR6 were a little crappy when I got it. I ended up fitting wavey discs and although a little better, werent as good as they could have been.

I ended up getting the calipers overhauled and replaced piston and dust seals all round. Worked wonders.
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got CBR600RR Nissins on mine. Had some of the meat filed out the centre of the caliper to fit over my disk.

The BEST mod ever. So much more feel
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jjdugen
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

All Honda 600 - 900 OPPOSED PISTON calipers will fit.
Early 'blade calipers had one pin to locate the pads, later had two pins and are better, but depends on price and availability.
I know the Kwaks calipers are universally slagged, but they can be made to work extremely well, to the point of warping disks. The Niisins are much easier to bleed and seem to come with a better inherent build quality.
You will need to go to B+Q and buy a length of alloy tubing, (pretty sure the Honda caliper bolts are 8mm, the Kwaks fork holes 10mm) Cut a length of the tubing to act as a sleeve between bolt and fork holes, job done easily and cheaply.
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DrSnoosnoo
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen is right although if you look on ebay, there is at least one seller I know of who sells bolts which have this conversion built in. I know of a guy who just bought the bolts and they're fine.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont forget you want a matching mc.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if I just got the wrong blade calipers...but when I did the mod on my bike I had to dremel off a bunch of metal from the inside of the caliper to stop the disc rubbing on the edge of it as it went round.

I think I had ones like this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-FIREBLADE-CBR900RRY-RR-1-Front-brake-caliper-R-H-/370525077439
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UnspeedySam
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

devojunior wrote:
dont forget you want a matching mc.


I didn't change mine and my brakes were very effective.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
devojunior wrote:
dont forget you want a matching mc.


I didn't change mine and my brakes were very effective.
Same.
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DrSnoosnoo
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

moppy wrote:
Same.


same same.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:
moppy wrote:
Same.


same same.


Same same same...
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely, the Kwak MC is fine for the job.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 25 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the ones you need for the easiest conversion - you should get some a bit cheaper if you hunt around. I paid £70.00 for my pair.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBR-900-929-Fireblade-front-brake-calipers-GOOD-00-01-/251247440603?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3a7f83b2db

You can fit earlier ones, but then you have to fanny about cutting a bit out of the front mudguard to accommodate the bleed nipples. The later Nissins are set at an outward facing angle and miss the mudguard.
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