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hondakawasaki
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Uninsured bike seized Reply with quote

Hi all, so stupidly rode my bike round the back to be cleaned only to find a cop behind me when i pulled up my insurance ran out a few days ago they took my bike

Is it as simple as insure my bike online pay the impound fee and ride my bike home do i need insurance documents to get the bike back?

Thanks for the help
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF thats all they have done and going to do.. then yes

do you know if they are going to charge you? to seize the bike i would have guessed they are
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll need to prove you're fully legal to ride the bike home.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes you will need the policy docs. If your insurers has a local branch I believe you can get them to fax it through, the last thing you want is storage charges building up while you wait for the docs in the post.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Await the NIP, 6 points and £2500 fine! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if i did my bike licence now would i get banned

I have only done my cbt
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hondakawasaki wrote:
So if i did my bike licence now would i get banned

I have only done my cbt


No you'd start your full licence with 6 points and if you got 3 more you'd lose your licence under the new drivers act and have to resit your tests, assuming you don't have a car licence and haven't had it for more than two years.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkish wrote:
Await the NIP, 6 points and £2500 fine! Thumbs Up


QFT! Get a sob story ready. The 6 points is unavoidable but the magistrates will reduce the fine if they like you.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: Uninsured bike seized Reply with quote

hondakawasaki wrote:
Hi all, so stupidly rode my bike round the back to be cleaned only to find a cop behind me when i pulled up my insurance ran out a few days ago they took my bike

Is it as simple as insure my bike online pay the impound fee and ride my bike home do i need insurance documents to get the bike back?

Thanks for the help


Pretty much. It should say on the Section 165 form you were given.

Some forces require you to go to a Police station to prove that you have got insurance etc, they'll phone/contact the company who have the bike and say it can be released.

You'll then pay them (£150ish, plus around £20 a day) and you get it back.

If you aren't sure, give them a ring on 101 and see what you need to do. But it should all be on the Section 165 form.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 02 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

qarka wrote:
Turkish wrote:
Await the NIP, 6 points and £2500 fine! Thumbs Up


QFT! Get a sob story ready. The 6 points is unavoidable but the magistrates will reduce the fine if they like you.



i can imagine getting insurance afterwards will be interesting,

sucks to get caught for something so simple and silly, but good luck
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 03 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all, so the impound still has my bike

I insured my bike but didn't get the policy documents untill after 5 so the impound was closed

Upon reading the certificate of insurance it says it does not cover me to release impounded vehicles

Will i still be able to get my bike?

I have another piece of paper that i printed off with the insurance certificate it says im insured but it doesn't say im not allowed to release impounded vehicles

Will i be able to show them this print out instead of the insurance certificate it still has all my details on

Will this be ok to show at the police station

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PostPosted: 21:05 - 03 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hondakawasaki wrote:


Upon reading the certificate of insurance it says it does not cover me to release impounded vehicles

Will i still be able to get my bike?


Normally it says

'not to be used to release a vehicle from impound, other than the one identified by the registration mark above.

if it has your bikes reg number on it along with your name, then it's all good Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 03 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course you can get your bike back.

I think what it actually says on your insurance certificate is that if your bike is impounded for any reason, the insurance company won't pay for it to be released etc.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 03 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok heres exactly what it says on the insurance certificate

where the driving other vehicles extension is shown under section 5 of this certificate of insurance this policy does not cover use to secure the release of a motor vehicle,not otherwise specifically the subject of insurance by this policy,which has been seized by,or on behalf of any government or public authority

maybe i read it wrong i think it means i can not recover any other vehicle apart from the one on the certificate

im starting to worry i dont want to lose my bike it has a lot of sentimental value to me

thanks for the help
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 03 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of a bastard thing to be caught for, there should be a common sense element to this kind of thing if it is genuinely less than a mile or whatever. No harm done and all that jazz.

Anyway by the wording of it you should be fine to go get it on that policy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 03 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hondakawasaki wrote:
i think it means i can not recover any other vehicle apart from the one on the certificate



It does. But if your bike is the vehicle on the certificate you are OK.....
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 03 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thanks guys Smile will let you know how it goes tomorrow
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 04 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be fine, don't be fobbed off by a copper or pound hound who just skims the cert.

Oh, you told your new insurer about your pending conviction for driving without insurance, right? Sad
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 04 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A guy I worked with got collared for reversing his uninsured car out of a garage so he could get at something in the garage. I guess you and he share the same luck.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 04 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hurr seriously? How long were you on the bike?

I've took a few uninsured bikes round the corner to the little industrial area to test them, rarely anyone around, last time there was someone teaching someone to drive

Might not be doing that one again D:
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 04 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do they know you are uninsured without using a cam thing or running your plates?

Did they just ask?
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 04 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the guy I know got a producer - and he couldn't produce!
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 04 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Yeah the guy I know got a producer - and he couldn't produce!

He should have produced his penis
Hows this for a producer pig! Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 04 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
A guy I worked with got collared for reversing his uninsured car out of a garage so he could get at something in the garage. I guess you and he share the same luck.


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PostPosted: 08:20 - 05 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait so the cop just randomly asekd him for a producer without reasonable cause or suspect?
Seems like a dick move, surely he could walk up a road and demand everyone pulling out their drives to give producers for no reason?

Could he not have insured the car retrospectively and edited the policy documents to remove the date Thinking I know you're then stepping into fraud, but if you just remove the date and don't change it to something else you can just say it wasn't on there or it was a printing error or some shit Razz

Aaand if given a producer...why did they seize OPs bike? Couldn't he have deferred it?
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