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PostPosted: 13:25 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
At fucking last.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ahem...

A slightly more pithy response...

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PostPosted: 13:37 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: The old crone is dead Reply with quote
jjdugen wrote:
Thatcher dead.... rejoice, rejoice!


Let us all know when your wife / mother / daughter dies so we can all throw a party to celebrate.

Pitiful excuse of a human being.

Reguardless of her failings, they stem from one reason and one reason only, labour's fuck up whilst in power, much the same as the present government are being demonised due to labour's monumental fuck up.

History repeating itself d, surely not, but then, the n ajority will never learn, and labour will be in once again for another decade of fuck ups before leaving the mess for others to clean up
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: The old crone is dead Reply with quote
kernow24 wrote:


Reguardless of her failings, they stem from one reason and one reason only, labour's fuck up whilst in power, much the same as the present government are being demonised due to labour's monumental fuck up.


So your saying that she rescued the economy from what Labour done.... and now Cococunt macaroon is doing the same. Rescuing the economy from Labours fuck up?

Another spin on this story could be Labour rescues the working class of Britain from the Tory fuck up but lets not get into schematics eh?
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, i hate schematics . . . semantics however . . .GAME ON!!
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Huambo81a wrote:
Yes, i hate schematics . . . semantics however . . .GAME ON!!


Sorry, too happy to spell proper! lol
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
pinkyfloyd wrote:
Huambo81a wrote:
Yes, i hate schematics . . . semantics however . . .GAME ON!!


Sorry, too happy to spell proper! lol


Just kidding, i'm not usually a pedantic knob Smile
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: The old crone is dead Reply with quote
jjdugen wrote:
Thatcher dead.... rejoice, rejoice!


A family is in mourning for their mother / grandmother, and you post crap like that.

In circumstances like this you either say something polite or shut the fuck up!
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: The old crone is dead Reply with quote
Disano wrote:
jjdugen wrote:
Thatcher dead.... rejoice, rejoice!


A family is in mourning for their mother / grandmother, and you post crap like that.

In circumstances like this you either say something polite or shut the fuck up!


Second that..
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: The old crone is dead Reply with quote
Disano wrote:
jjdugen wrote:
Thatcher dead.... rejoice, rejoice!


A family is in mourning for their mother / grandmother, and you post crap like that.

In circumstances like this you either say something polite or shut the fuck up!


Agree

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PostPosted: 21:43 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
With people like jjdugen you can see the kind of num nuts she was up against!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at times like this someone is hurting and they need support, whoever they are.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 08 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
stigg wrote:
With people like jjdugen you can see the kind of num nuts she was up against!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at times like this someone is hurting and they need support, whoever they are.


Maybe, but I find it incredibly unlikely they are reading BCF (which you seem to have mixed up with facebook, twitter, or any other modern wanky method of conveying 'support', 'awareness' or 'pseudo-sympathy')

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(The same sentiment also applies to the rest of noobs above (except Snodvan, who's posts I normally appreciate)).
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 09 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
swampy wrote:


(The same sentiment also applies to the rest of noobs above (except Snodvan, who's posts I normally appreciate)).


45 years riding bikes and I'm a noob Shocked I am bereft Very Happy
(just on this forum).

I don't do Facebook, twitter, social media support, awareness or pseudo sympathy, I just don't appreciate people posting their joy at someone dying.
If you didn't like her politics fair enough (I didn't either) but discuss that.
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 09 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Disano wrote:

I don't do Facebook, twitter, social media support, awareness or pseudo sympathy, I just don't appreciate people posting their joy at someone dying.
If you didn't like her politics fair enough (I didn't either) but discuss that.


I dont like the fact that she killed thousands of people, including members of my family.
Thats why I am rejoicing.

Do some homework.

May she RIH for all eternity.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 09 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Disano wrote:
swampy wrote:


(The same sentiment also applies to the rest of noobs above (except Snodvan, who's posts I normally appreciate)).


45 years riding bikes and I'm a noob Shocked I am bereft Very Happy
(just on this forum).

I don't do Facebook, twitter, social media support, awareness or pseudo sympathy, I just don't appreciate people posting their joy at someone dying.
If you didn't like her politics fair enough (I didn't either) but discuss that.


Less than two months on this forum with the huge total of 5 posts, so yep, noob it is I'm afraid. I'll discuss what I want thanks, it's an open forum and a free world.

You might feel its wrong to speak ill of the dead. I feel it's wrong to deify an objectionable human being. I would (and did) hold and express these views when she was alive, so what's changed ?

It's princess fucking Diana all over again... Or shouldn't I say that in case one of the princes is reading ?
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 09 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
[/quote]

Do some homework.

May she RIH for all eternity.[/quote]

I am well aware of her political past, I don't need to do homework, I was there for most of it.
And I agree with your position on her culpability in the contaminated blood scandal and also her manoeuvring in the Falklands that took the country to war.
I never said I liked her, I didn't.

I personally prefer humanity to hatred, but hey...strokes for folks.
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I am very disappointed that a Scot would jump to her defence.
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This article puts it far more eloquently than I could, but Thatcher is not just an ordinary person. Personally I can see the good she did and that breaking the unions was a necessity. I think without her during difficult times globally the UK would've become an irrelevance. The UK has her to thank for it's current position as a powerful force in(ish) Europe. Without it the UK would be just another mid level state at best.

I do, however, understand the reactions of many who rejoice that the purveyor of serious harm/perceived harm to them is dead. Perhaps they will now come to terms with the injustice/perceived injustice they received and move on...

https://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-etiquette

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This demand for respectful silence in the wake of a public figure's death is not just misguided but dangerous. That one should not speak ill of the dead is arguably appropriate when a private person dies, but it is wildly inappropriate for the death of a controversial public figure, particularly one who wielded significant influence and political power. "Respecting the grief" of Thatcher's family members is appropriate if one is friends with them or attends a wake they organize, but the protocols are fundamentally different when it comes to public discourse about the person's life and political acts.

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PostPosted: 16:42 - 09 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
swampy wrote:

It's princess fucking Diana all over again... Or shouldn't I say that in case one of the princes is reading ?



Okay....I'm a noob Very Happy

I didn't like Diana either,and I couldn't believe the crap that went on when she died, but I didn't go around telling everybody how happy I was.

As you say, its an open forum and a free world (well maybe not, but thats a different topic. Smile
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CaNsA wrote:
I am very disappointed that a Scot would jump to her defence.


I'm not defending her.....I'm objecting to rejoicing at someones death.
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Sorry...double post...hit the wrong button Embarassed
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Don't speak ill of the dead, even if they are a murderer?

GTFO, and I hope you are happy in the land she has destroyed.
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Don't speak ill of the dead, even if they are a murderer?

GTFO, and I hope you are happy in the land she has destroyed.


I never said not to speak ill of the dead, and I agree that she destroyed Scotland and caused irreparable harm to the rest of the UK.

My personal opinion of the woman is probably similar to that of the many that are rejoicing at her death.

I just find that rejoicing at someones death to be unedifying and out of order.

I guess that I am old fashioned, and much as I have enjoyed this debate I think I will go back to reading the threads on bikes, which is what I've done for the last few years (when I can get an internet connection).
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