the young woman who killed herself and her children.

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This has played heavily on my mind and has upset me a great deal, let me explain why,

the woman has spent the past four years being pregnant, I know from what my youngest daughter went through having two children a year apart, this must have been really hard. Whether anyone thinks it was irresponsible doesnt matter.

What I do know is that a young woman who from snippets of information gained from facebook and friend sources, suffered post natal depression quite badly. My daughter was on the verge of being sectioned for hers and is still on medication even now her youngest is two. Never under estimate how vile this condition is and how many women actually kill themselves or/and their children because of it.

This young mum suffering chronic post natal depression with her fourth child due in less than two months time is told by her partner that he is leaving her for another woman.
This must be particularly devastating at any time for a healthy happy woman, imagine the blackness that she must have been struggling to see through when she decided that life was too evil to struggle through and that the children were in a better place if she did what she did.

There is going to be the counter argument that she could have done it out of revenge, i know it happens but i really dont believe this is the scenario here. I feel like crying just thinking about it when I have been so frightened for my own daughter when she was going through her depression.

The comments from her ex who stated on hearing some young woman had killed herself was "I had a feeling it was her" just shows that he knew that she was in a bad way when he left her.

My daughters ex found it easier to shag someone else rather than support the mother of his children through the bleakest time.

I hope the father of these poor children can live with what has happened and that the woman he deserted them and their pregnant mother for is worth it.


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[Skudd]

It struck me as very sad and chances missed. Relationships do break down. Depression is very hard for the other person to handle, I know my ex-wife couldn't handle mine at the time, although I was there for her when she went through her boughts of it. (something to do with the parent/child.child/parent ballance in all relationships) You cannot blame the guy, although his actions may have brought on some of the issues. As long as he wasn't abusive in the relationship. We do not know if he was the father of all the children as in todays society children can have multiple fathers.
It is just a very sad incident, a shame that a young woman with young children thought that the only way was the one she took. We give so much effort to junkies and the like and miss the young women who really do need the help.
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he was the father to all four of them according to the news.
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all comes to down to maybe she thought having more kids would make the depression go away, and him fucking off was the straw that broke the camels back.
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I know my daughters ex would have had her popping out kids one after the other, they werent on benefits but he worked nights and slept all day, she was in a really bad way which is why the minute he walked out the door,me and my other half hired a van and moved her up here where we could look after her and the babies. I was petrified for her well being,
She was a mess and had developed an obsessive thing about her son after his dad left him in the bath unattended for a few minutes and was convinced he was going to die, her daughter born prematurely too after she was in hospital at 31 weeks with swine flu was too much and although she went through the motions with her, there was nothing there bond wise. It has been a stressful time for us all but on the right medication, things have turned round and her bond with her daughter is wonderful.

her ex has tried to make things difficult but now has another baby with the last woman he was sleeping with while he was still with my daughter. he now tells her he doesnt think the children are his and he shouldnt be paying maintenance for them.

To be fair, she isnt bothered as she now has her confidence back and is working full time tattooing and making more money than she ever thought possible.

My nerves are no longer frayed and I get to see her and my grandchildren regularly so a good situation. she is now the gorgous young woman she used to be and the haunted look and bizzare behaviour is a thing of the past. Oh she recently got married to a musician who adores her and the children too.

This was not a quick fix to her situation and was nearly three years of me travelling and speaking with relevant head doctors etc.
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[scarborough_lad]

I can't even begin to understand how this happens, but its such a shame. It's not directly anyone's fault, but at the end of the day there's a dead mum and kids, very sad.
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[Polarbear]

4 kids at 21, something very very wrong about that. It's not like the pill is rocket science, even the lowest bottom feeder should be able to understand how to take a pill.

I actually am not sure who I feel sorry for. The kids, yes cause they are dead, no because they will be a mirror of mum and dad and to be honest I don't think they should breed, be allowed to breed or to have any influence on the bringing up of children.

Mum, because even at 21 is not mature, and to have 3+1 by then is just so wrong.

Dad should be castrated.

PB awaits the abuse......
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I totally understand where you are coming from PB, a young woman who is tired and depressed is easy to manipulate, this is what my daughters ex tried, she was pressured into having a second child sooner than she wanted hence her becoming so ill with PND and she was in her mid 20s.
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''Miss Anderson, 23, is believed to have stabbed Craig McLellan, 24, in a row at her flat in Lowestoft, Suffolk, on Sunday evening after he allegedly dumped her for another woman.

Suffolk Police have confirmed that officers visited the flat as part of their investigation into the alleged stabbing and spoke to Miss Anderson on an intercom system, but they were refused entry.

Mr McLelland is not believed to have been seriously injured when he was stabbed, but it is thought that he was treated at the James Paget Hospital in Gorleston, Norfolk.

Suffolk Police have now referred the incident to the Independent Police Complaints Commission as a result of their involvement with Miss Anderson shortly before her death.''


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Actually what I said earlier GR is that she has been suffering from depression for quite a while, by all accounts she was a good mother and to be honest I doubt a man who gets his girlfriend pregnant that regularly then buggers off when shes so close to having another child is a decent father or partner.

I dont care much for the morals of his new woman either. A lot of young girls are pretty stupid when it comes to believing in the true love bullshit.................... mind you seeing some of the posts from the younger lads on here its not just a female trait
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[GhostRider]

[scorps]

My post was originally more to do with the issue of post natal depression and how it can affect the mothers who suffer from it.

Having seen it from a personal level affect my own family it struck a deep chord, this situation isnt an isolated incident and there have recently been several cases where severely depressed women have killed their babys and killed or attempted to kill themselves after.
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Im not saying it was all his fault, the fact that he was happy to keep getting her pregnant then walking out on her when it was obvious that she was in a vulnerable state was rather shitty though, the fact that the first person he thought of was her when he heard someone had killed themselves shows that he knew she wasnt in a good place, if you have been with someone for a long time surely you dont just bail.

We see it on these forums about how people are struggling with depression or they want advice on how to be there for their partners. It isnt something to be taken lightly but I expect the full story will soon come out.
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[smegballs]

Why would a man pressure a woman into kids in the first place?

Jesus, hang from your own rope much!

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men can use contraception too you know, my daughters ex wanted her to have six one after the other, she told him to fuck off
anyway ive had enough of this thread now, ive enough crap on my plate to deal with at the moment.

do Wish Cameron would chuck himself off a car park roof though, that would at least give me something to smile about
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I dunno , people getting blown up, mums killing kids, men murdering their girlfriends for insurance payouts, drunk drivers mowing kids down, kids kicking a homeless man to death for a dare...............Im feeling really down about just how shitty people are. Im away to eat chocolate
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