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3 little words can evoke so much feeling . .
'Never been started' = Yeah, Instant loathing.
What a cock. 
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I do find the loathing amusing. OK, so if you had 2,000 billion pounds, you wouldn't do something similar? Maybe not with bikes, but with whatever your passion happens to be. Let's face it, if you have the cash, why not collect every type of Fender/Gibson/Jaguar/Hornby train/Norton/Triumph/Lexmoto there is out there. And what's the harm, is it going to affect you in any way? Highly unlikely.
Personally, I think it's a waste to have a classic anything and not use it as it was intended. But, I don't hate people who collect cars and bikes and not use them, I pity them more than anything that they're not getting to enjoy what they bought.
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I'd buy 2 of everything  then you get to do both. Ride one keep one for spares.
Or better still buy 3, then you can leave one untouched  |
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Looks more like a showroom than a garage.
Garages should have oil stains in the floor, tools scattered around and a well used bike taking pride of place in the centre. Not a sparkling, pristine, showroom-esque room full of never used bikes.
That garage lacks a soul.
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Jay Leno does it much better:
https://www.jaylenosgarage.com/collections/steam-cars-1/#item=220452
(Was just watching that - it's an steam car, which he does drive, is really enthusiastic about and has supped up a bit - while I'm sure most of the work is done by others, he does seem to still know plenty and at least gets his hands dirty on camera. |
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It would be a tragedy if he got trapped down there and had to drink radiator water and gnaw on leather tassels to survive. A tragedy.
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What a ridiculous bellend. I'd rather be poor and have a few old bikes that I get out on and actually ride, and keep them in a normal garage that's a) small, b) attached to me house, c) not underground and d) doesn't cost five million cocking bucks 
Being wealthy seems fantastic. But people with loads of money always do stupid shit with it, like this guy. Being rich seems to turn people's brains to mush.
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| Shinigami wrote: | May as well pop into a showroom now and then than bother having a bunch of untouched bikes you look at every now and then..
I just wouldn't buy that many, likely a couple of different types for different occasions/experiences but no more than that
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Maybe you are, but you wouldn't be normal. I notice you already have two bikes (in your sig), how often do you ride them both?
| 27cows wrote: | What a ridiculous bellend. I'd rather be poor and have a few old bikes that I get out on and actually ride, and keep them in a normal garage that's a) small, b) attached to me house, c) not underground and d) doesn't cost five million cocking bucks
Being wealthy seems fantastic. But people with loads of money always do stupid shit with it, like this guy. Being rich seems to turn people's brains to mush. |
Why is he a bellend, and why is it stupid shit? I don't think it's something I'd do personally, and he's probably at the extreme end as someone who spends a lot on bikes.
I really don't see why people get so worked up about it. TBH if it was my garage I'd be telling you to GTFO and asking you what it had to do with you how I spent my money, and what harm I was doing.
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| Efes123 wrote: | | Shinigami wrote: | May as well pop into a showroom now and then than bother having a bunch of untouched bikes you look at every now and then..
I just wouldn't buy that many, likely a couple of different types for different occasions/experiences but no more than that
I'm just too practically minded I think |
Maybe you are, but you wouldn't be normal. I notice you already have two bikes (in your sig), how often do you ride them both?
| 27cows wrote: | What a ridiculous bellend. I'd rather be poor and have a few old bikes that I get out on and actually ride, and keep them in a normal garage that's a) small, b) attached to me house, c) not underground and d) doesn't cost five million cocking bucks
Being wealthy seems fantastic. But people with loads of money always do stupid shit with it, like this guy. Being rich seems to turn people's brains to mush. |
Why is he a bellend, and why is it stupid shit? I don't think it's something I'd do personally, and he's probably at the extreme end as someone who spends a lot on bikes.
I really don't see why people get so worked up about it. TBH if it was my garage I'd be telling you to GTFO and asking you what it had to do with you how I spent my money, and what harm I was doing. |
He's a bellend because he's spent $5m on a fucking underground garage, which he's turned into his own personal bike showroom full of motorcycles he's clearly never ridden & probably never will
That is an utterly preposterous way to spend money. And a waste. It's his money, he can do what he wants with it, but he doesn't have to publicize what a complete dong he is.
If someone said to him right, here's some old shitter, say a 10 year old ER5, now go out and have a ride - he'd enjoy himself a lot more than he would moping around his huge garage full of unused brand new bikes. This is exactly the kind of insane shit I would expect from that little fat one from N Korea.
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Do I want to be closed in a underground garage with all that petrol? 
Well, at least, no one's gonna ever steal a thing from this guy
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Now you see, a garage full of projects is entirely different, they've likely been ridden and doing up bikes/bringing them back to life would be a good way of spending the money/time, as long as those bikes then got ridden
I probably would have a reasonably large garage an a bunch of project bikes for tinkering with and learning/doing up which i'd then pass on to others to ride and such. I'd be an awesome millionaire, someone give me some millions 
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| 27cows wrote: | He's a bellend because he's spent $5m on a fucking underground garage, which he's turned into his own personal bike showroom full of motorcycles he's clearly never ridden & probably never will
That is an utterly preposterous way to spend money. And a waste. It's his money, he can do what he wants with it, but he doesn't have to publicize what a complete dong he is. |
Why get so worked up about it? So you think he's wasting his money, he doesn't. To him it's worth it. If you spent, let's say 1%, of your spare cash creating something you loved, would it make you a bellend? Is it the fact that it's $5m that seems to be grating? What if it was $1m, or $100k, or even $1k, where do you draw the line that makes someone a bellend or dong (I prefer bellend, it's a much more woody word, dong seems a bit tinny to me)
I suspect whomever did the filming contacted him, I haven't seen him shouting from the rooftops.
| 27cows wrote: | If someone said to him right, here's some old shitter, say a 10 year old ER5, now go out and have a ride - he'd enjoy himself a lot more than he would moping around his huge garage full of unused brand new bikes. This is exactly the kind of insane shit I would expect from that little fat one from N Korea. |
Quite likely, and personally I agree.
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| Efes123 wrote: | Mmm, that depends on how many bikes you bought. There would come a point where there simply wasn't enough time to ride them all. Once you get over 20, then you really aren't going to ride anything regularly, and if you manage to collect 50 then there's going to be some that you might only ever ride once. |
I know / was aquanted with a chap in britain with a similar aladin's cave... his hoard was in a big cellar under his house, and he had a lift down to it from his concervatory, though a little more err.... shedologist... he adapted one of those platfrom lifts they use on building sites.
He reckoned he kept his collection at about 50 bikes; most of them started life as boxes of bits or complete wrecks and he did all the restoration work himself.
He reckoned that between the cellar, his garage and his lock-up, he usually had about 100 bikes knocking about at any one time, and usually half a dozen 'on the bench' being restored.
The ones he liked, he'd do to show standard, and he'd trailer about six bikes a time to concourse... and each would get ridden, briefly round the show arena, maybe the parade, and he'd keep about a dozen bikes Taxed, Tested and Insured for the show season.
Bikes he wasn't so fond of, when he'd done them, he'd sell on; when he ran out of room in the cellar..... he'd decide whether he really wanted to make room for whatever he was trying to squeeze in there, by flogging a bike from the collection.... or to flog the one there was no room for...
So it was a constantly changing collection, based on the expedience of 'space'.... with at least six new candidates coming along each year, and a changing dozen being used and doing the show circuit.
The bikes weren't wasted.... would have been a waste if he had let them just get scrapped, rather than restored them... but riding them? Well, he had more enthusiasm for making them 'live' again, than he did riding them... if he had, well, hundreds of hours he spent with spanner could have been spent riding, and he found time to spanner a lot of bikes!
Difference here is that he wasn't just buying stuff to stash, for satisfaction of knowing he owned stuff. That's a little sad. The need to possess, and gratification purely from possession.
But, my Dad's like that. He collects classic cameras. Buys them, puts a roll of film through them. Then puts them in a draw! He doesn't even have them on display on a shelf or anything!
How many bikes is enough? How many bikes could you use?
Another chap, I was aquanted with? He had a double garage with; let me think? Trials rider; into classic trials; he had I think it was a hard tail Norton for Rigid class; Pretty sure he had three Matchless / AJS, pre-65 bikes. I know he had 2 350's and a 500, and think that the 2 350's were different chops, one was a short wheel-base high clerance special for pure observed section trials, the other more concervative for long-trial events, and I have a feeling he had a DBD34 in trials trim. Then he had a couple of twin-shock bikes; I think one was a fairly early Bultaco the other a late Yamaha TY175, I think. Then he had a contemprary machine, which at the time I think was a Beta. That's 8..... and they were nearly all used pretty regularly, as in at least once a month. He trialed every Sunday, so, one of the classic pre-65 bikes would get an outing for sure, and if he could squeeze in his laps early enough; he'd double up and go for a second entry on one of the twin-shocks! (I was lucky to get my laps in at ALL.... and when I did, I was knackered by the end of it! But he didn't mess about!) Then he'd use the Beta in mid-week evening trials where he could squeeze one in in the summer months.
The long trail 350 & 500 and possibly the Goldie he used for a bit of 'laning. But he had a CBR1000F for the road.
If you compete.... then I suppose you have more chance to use more bikes. Mike Hailwood..... (actually lived just two miles from me when I was a kid!)... used to race what, three classes per meet? As did Joey and the Ulster-Lads.... 250's, 350's and either 500's or 'Open'... there's three bikes working for a living each week-end.... and them boys of old, would have kept thier eye in doing 'Winter-Trials' so possible excuse for a couple more machines in the stable.....
JUST for the road, though... yeah; I think it would be difficult to find more than half a dozen bikes so different that they were worth the switch, and that you could regularly use.
I used to have access to my Uncles little collection; ooooh... almost 20 years ago.. so along side my VF1000 and my Cota Trials bike, I could pick from, a Moto-Morini 3 1/3; Moto-Guzzi V50; Ducati 350 Street-Scrambler; Benelli 354 and a few curiouse italian mopeds!
The mopeds were a bit of a laugh! But we never went far on them... I always ended up with the one that didn't have suspension!
The Duke was favourite for trundling to local meet on the Bancroft... it just turned heads... the noise started it... then people saw the Ducati badge and knoblies and started shaking thier head! But it ALWAYS cought me out with right foot gear-shift, switching from one of the others. Not a bike you could venture too far on, so never got a lot of saddle hours, despite being the one that probably got most outings... how many sunny sunday cruises within fifteen twenty miles of home, can you get to in a year? Especially if you have a trials bike and want to go compete on a Sunday.
The Morini was 'nice' for a blast to country pub. Nice scratching tool, but not one for long rides. More opportunity to take it for a blat... but again, never got too many saddle hours.
The Benelli was simply horrible. Unlike the twins it was gutless low down.... which you could have forgiven if it did anything up top.... which it didn't really. It didn't particularly handle, and at a meet it just got curiouse glances, as people did a double take seeing a Honda 400/4 with a strange tank!
V50 was more useful, but less exiting. I really liked it.... but..... it wasn't a scratcher like the Morini, and it wasn't a show-piece like the Scrambler..... and having the VF to rack up miles..... it was very hard to want to take the Guzzi anywhere instead.... other than perhaps to pop to the chippy, because I could be there and back before the VF had warmed up! But then I could have used the Scrambler or the Morini, or even heaven forbid the CAR for that!
I guess.... my stable of regular riders would probably be.... 3
1/ Cagiva Mito 7-speed round lamp model; for sunny evening scratching
2/ Either an old air-cooled two-stroke trail bike, or modern 4-stroke dirt-bike; for a little off-road action and round town pottering
3/ Muscle-Bike Bruiser, for long range day-tripping / ride-outs / touring
Enough to have a veriety and range of specialisation, but not so many they were only seldom used, and I had to re-aclimatise each time I switched saddle.
20 bikes? I think even that many would be stretching the opportunity for use! Annual average bike miles? 6K a year? Lets get keen and say 12K, thats pushing average car commuter miles.... but? I used to be able to crank up 1000miles in a weekend if I lost track of time! Split that between 20 different machines, and you have 600 miles on each. Average of what 40mph?
You would have to find, 15 hours of saddle time for each bike, each year... that's two days solid riding.... for each bike.... that's every weekend through the summer, on the bike. Non Stop. NOT to crank up enough miles on any one of them to need an oil change.
Yeah... you can crank up a few miles in the evenings, and you can crank up even more saddle time, using them to commute on every day.... but...... to actually 'use' so many bikes.... crank up service intervals.... in leisure riding ALL your spare time would have to be spent just RIDING!
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