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PostPosted: 20:52 - 19 Apr 2013    Post subject: Norfolk PPC suggest scrapping some speed limites Reply with quote

Seems he's got some sense.

It works across Europe what not here? We have far too many road signs and constantly changing speed limits.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-22213093

For anyone who doesn't have time to read the article, he's talking scrapping speed limits on major roads, and instead driving to the condition.

He also mentions the system they have in practically ever country in Europe whereby there is a blanket speed limit through villages and towns.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 19 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still think theres too many spacktards on the road in Britain that I wouldn't trust to drive a plastic spoon into their mouth, let alone drive to what they feel are correct for conditions in this country.
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 20 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Populist tosh from an irrelevant puppet. He's got no authority to dictate turning a blind eye to crimes, let alone to change the law or even to have speed signs taken down.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 20 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Populist tosh from an irrelevant puppet. He's got no authority to dictate turning a blind eye to crimes, let alone to change the law or even to have speed signs taken down.


Regardless of his power. He raises a point.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 20 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing wrong with driving fast, the problem comes when people drive like idiots.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 20 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets not forget that once upon a time we didn't have speed limits out of town, that's what the white circle with a black stripe through it used to mean. The nsl was introduced because of the number of incompetent drivers killing themselves on country roads and motorways.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 24 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no issue with speed limits.

Most drivers - statistically, that probably includes you, just as it includes me - aren't safe at speed.

Most drivers struggle to "drive to the conditions" even when there are speed limits.

Most people in this country are reflexively anti speed limits etc, because most people can't accept that THEY are probably the problem, it's always "other people" who are the dangers...
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 24 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Lets not forget that once upon a time we didn't have speed limits out of town, that's what the white circle with a black stripe through it used to mean. The nsl was introduced because of the number of incompetent drivers killing themselves on country roads and motorways.

Many advanced riding instructors go with if it's in a red circle then stick to it. Otherwise it's down to conditions, skill, confidence, machinery, pixie dust, etc.

Except of course if taking an exam/test and then it's an 'obey all speed limits' instruction Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 24 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speed limits are habitually used as speed targets though - including by the DSA during tests. Shocked

Point in case, I've had mongs tailgating me on "NSL" hillbilly hick roads where 10mph is taking your life in your hands, let alone the legal 60 that they're determined to do.


map wrote:
Many advanced riding instructors go with if it's in a red circle then stick to it. Otherwise it's down to conditions, skill, confidence, machinery, pixie dust, etc.

Yes, T.C. refers to NSL signs as "GLF" (Go Like Fuck) zones. Usually a couple of posts before berating us for choosing which laws to follow and which to break. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well what ever you do at speed can harm you or others,
I suppose the best advise is to travel at a speed where you can react in time to the conditions ... and dont do speed ... the drug Thumbs Up Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A clear and concise system that doesn't generate confusion and error would not deliver easy targets and potential revenue. would never work.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not unreasonable to have a blanket offence of driving at speed not appropriate to road conditions.
I have often thought the same as limits of 30 or 60 tend to be seen by some as a target when often it is too fast.
Plus there is a real problem of spending too much time looking at speedo which could be better looking ahead.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insanely learner drivers are now taught that the speed limit is a target that you're expected to hit, no wonder so many kiddies drive like loonies nowadays.
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 03 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Insanely learner drivers are now taught that the speed limit is a target that you're expected to hit, no wonder so many kiddies drive like loonies nowadays.


A speed limit is more a window that you are allowed to work in. When I used to teach I would take pupils down NSL roads where if you did above 20mph you would be toast and 40 mph roads that were just traffic calming measures due to the odd numpty not driving to the conditions on a NSL road.

I would go for a blanket 20mph outside schools with Gatso and zero tolerance, but have some motorways at 90mph.

I would also go for being able to overtake on either side of a vehicle on the motorway to stop the central "safe" lane hoggers.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 03 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

90 on motorways would be good, reckon the 30's should stay just that though
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 03 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
I would also go for being able to overtake on either side of a vehicle on the motorway to stop the central "safe" lane hoggers.


Not to mention the occasional outside lane hogger. A rarer, but more offensive beast.

I'd like to see some motorways with higher speed limits, but there will be more accidents, because stupid people will drive at inappropriate speeds. That's Darwin for you.

Unless limits and other poor driving behaviour are properly enforced (with people, not cameras), the limits are more like guidelines anyway.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Twenty-four per cent of road deaths are caused by inappropriate speed."

Or to put it properly: "76% of road deaths are caused by appropriate speed".
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 10 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Insanely learner drivers are now taught that the speed limit is a target that you're expected to hit, no wonder so many kiddies drive like loonies nowadays.


Yes, I definitely found this while I was learning; although I think in some ways it's a good thing. Someone doing 30 in a 50 (which I often get on the way to and from work) on a road where it's hard to overtake is insanely annoying; far more annoying than someone performing a ridiculous overtake on a narrow country road.
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