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PostPosted: 07:32 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Itch in my boot! Reply with quote

Filtering through to the front of a set of traffic lights, relatively quiet only 3 or 4 cars in queue, can be 20 or 30 at peak. Going straight on, car going left, was into the 'safe' bicycle area a tad. My rear wheel was just ahead of the car occupied by two people driving a stereotypical Nissan for their culture, (currently pirating the seas ... without trying to be too Krad!).

I feel an itch in my boot, then it starts to feel like pressure, look down and the car is creeping onto my boot. Release foot and boot wheel which should've shook through the steering wheel, look over shoulder and they are both staring into space. At that point the lights changed so I leave, figuring nothing can be gained from remonstrating.

I consider myself good at filtering and I don't take chances, but don't hang around, such as the tit who passed me on the wrong side of a mini-roundabout (which is more or less straight lined anyway) on a Fazer further up the road.

I do completely understand leaving enough room alongside, but what baffles me, my top box is quite wide at the rear, would probably have been at mirror level. I'm on the floor with flat foot, no tipping, so bike not at odd angle.

I was quite literally shocked.

I've had a couple of close calls in 7 months, nothing serious and usually my fault (which assists in learning), but this was probably the worst.

Bizarre? Discuss!
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PostPosted: 08:06 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oof! Had someone bump into me at lights before. I had been sitting for maybe 2-3 minutes, lights at Stonebridge Park take an age to go around! Waiting for the green I hear a screech behind me, tensed up, and bump from behind, I let me clutch slip and bounced forward. Thankfully not far forward enough to get hit side on. The guy apparently didnt see me, the red light, or the traffic going side to side in front of me. No damage to bike or me thankfully.

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PostPosted: 08:08 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this on my old 125, felt something nudge me forward, looked back and some woman had nudged by exhaust, cue me turning round, beeping the horn and she was too busy on her phone texting and she looked at me like i was in the wrong.

Stupid.
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:
I had this on my old 125, felt something nudge me forward, looked back and some woman had nudged by exhaust, cue me turning round, beeping the horn and she was too busy on her phone texting and she looked at me like i was in the wrong.

Stupid.


Actually, come to think of it, the Mrs on pretty much the first/second time alone on the CBF was shoved up the back by a woman in a focus not concentrating on stopping. No damage or anything, thankfully didn't 'dent' her confidence either.
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: Itch in my boot! Reply with quote

wotsthestory wrote:
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Bizarre? Discuss!


Cunt put discuss.

Why do shit heads do this?

The fact that you wrote a statement opens up a debate without the school like gay faggot bum licking discuss at the end of it.
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: Itch in my boot! Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:

Cunt put discuss.

Why do shit heads do this?

The fact that you wrote a statement opens up a debate without the school like gay faggot bum licking discuss at the end of it.

A somewhat harsh way of getting your point across, but ok.
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: Itch in my boot! Reply with quote

wotsthestory wrote:
Skudd wrote:

Cunt put discuss.

Why do shit heads do this?

The fact that you wrote a statement opens up a debate without the school like gay faggot bum licking discuss at the end of it.

A somewhat harsh way of getting your point across, but ok.


Just my pet hate on forums.

Just putting "Today is Monday" will open up a debate on most forums without the need to tell anyone to chat about it.
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:
I had this on my old 125, felt something nudge me forward, looked back and some woman had nudged by exhaust, cue me turning round, beeping the horn and she was too busy on her phone texting and she looked at me like i was in the wrong.


Head-butt hole in windscreen, reach through and throat punch. Job's a good 'un.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Light controlled pedestrian crossing? If so, I can see two traffic offences that you committed, gangsta. Ride like you're in the jungle, something something Krad something.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Light controlled pedestrian crossing? If so, I can see two traffic offences that you committed, gangsta. Ride like you're in the jungle, something something Krad something.


Two? Aware of one and try to avoid where possible (the bicycle 'safe' area). In London, it's pretty much fair game, whereas other areas they'd pounce on you. Particularly as cyclists don't use them, mainly because they've ploughed on through already whilst light at red.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had it happen twice. Once was in the middle of traffic and the driver was trying to block me.

Second she was just absent minded. (First was male.)

Both times I had to bang on the bonnet to get them to reverse and release my foot from under their wheel.

Much as it may be good for stability, I did try and not put my foot out so far after that.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, only had this once and it was a BMW driver who just nudged my back wheel at a set of lights. I turned round and he sort of mouthed sorry. Couldn't be arsed saying anything either, plenty of times I've put my front wheel against mates back wheels and pushed them forwards, no harm done.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been bumped at a junction by a pair of old ladies, they looked so worried I just let it slip and rode off. No harm done.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:50 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there were zig-zag lines, then it's an offence to pass ahead of the foremost part of a vehicle which is stationary for the purpose of [complying with the lights].

So you've (probably) committed two offences: overtaking the closest vehicle; and proceeding past the stop line (into the pedalist box). You've already done the crime(s), why sit and wait for the lights?

I know, everyone else does it, pedalists are worse, and all the usual reasons why everyone knows that the rules of the road don't really apply.

But perhaps where the Nissan drivers came from, they don't know that, and everyone nudges bikes too, just friendly like? Someone needs to tell them that in this country, we pick and choose a different set of laws to ignore. Folded arms
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

So you've (probably) committed two offences: overtaking the closest vehicle; and proceeding past the stop line (into the pedalist box). You've already done the crime(s), why sit and wait for the lights?

Because it makes it considerably more likely you'll get prosecuted if you do that with any regularity?
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a car go over my foot before when waiting at the lights, thought at the time it was going to break my foot but just a lot of pressure as the Tyre rolled over.

Best I've had was a women closing up on me while i was filtering on my old R100GS with aluminum side panniers which scrapped along the side of her new BMW taking a lot of her paint off, She didn't notice or stop which is no surprise as she also did'nt notice me filtering. I also did the same last time l was in morocco but just ignored the rag head when he got out of his car and started shouting.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, then in that case only 1 'crime' it's not zig zag it's a junction and I am aware of the zig zag rule (because of here incidentally) and do obey this without exception. More often than not, the zig zags are there for a damn good reason!
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just gonna throw it out there that I frequently put half of my motorcycle into the cyclist box when filtering, intentionally.

The reason? I guess so that the person in the car can see that I'm there, and I'm not in their blind spot when they set off...
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

J7mbo wrote:
I'm just gonna throw it out there that I frequently put half of my motorcycle into the cyclist box when filtering, intentionally.

The reason? I guess so that the person in the car can see that I'm there, and I'm not in their blind spot when they set off...

In the centre of London, it's advisable, out of the way of cyclists, as mentioned earlier they don't use it, cars can see you. Also, i find it's easier to get out of the way of pyschotic scooterists IMO the worst road users in London.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half is the same as 'all' remember, though of course a bit harder to see.

If you're going to 'do the crime', on Rogerborg's comment - I'd go all the way. This way you can put yourself directly in front of a car, to make it clear that you're the lead vehicle and not just up for a race.

Not heard of any motorbikes getting down for using the bike bit, though I'm sure someone probably has been at some point.

I was amused when in Italy some years ago to see the bikes placing themselves well ahead of the line - to the point they couldn't see the lights and the cars had to beep their horns to let the bikes know it was a green light.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the car on Friday, there were some temporary traffic lights at a 4 way junction. The inside lane which is left turn only anyway was suspended. A bike came alongside me, round to the front (ok with that), then carried on until he was pretty much in the middle of the junction way ahead of the stop line, no 'safe' area here. Thought that was a bit extreme.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should qualifty my moralfag to note that I consider most traffic signs to be advisory, and it's only my supar leet obs that have prevented me getting more TS10s on my license. Wink
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