Mum is ‘devastated’ after death crash driver back in court

[Mr_NorthSean]

This motorbiker used to work at my place a few years ago before getting another job which tragically on his way home from work back in August 2011 ended his life.

The full story can be read here
https://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/mum-is-devastated-after-death-crash-driver-landed-back-in-court-1-5603228

What is this country coming to when all this driver gets is 200hrs unpaid work and a 3 year driving ban and then has to go out once again and drive while be banned.

Its a disgrace.
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[yaigi]

Extending his driving ban is going to do no good, he's obviously got a total lack of respect for it. Throw him jail so he can't go anywhere, simples. Not been able to sleep at night? Oh what a shame, must have gone for a drive to calm his mind then hey, see if his sleep deprived self could run another motorcyclist off the road. Idiot.
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[Alpha-9]

I don't see how he can get away with breaking a driving ban, it's the same as breaking parole IMO

It's like releasing a paedo then only giving them a slap on the wrist when they've been caught seat sniffing in nurseries the next day
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[Rogerborg]

Well, it was only a biker, we don't really count.

The loathsome toad is totally unrepentant as well. Oh, right, a suspended sentence, that'll stop him.

Why no photo of the taxi driver? Sound like someone who needs looking out for.
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[Rogerborg]

What's sad is that I can't even get a proper rage on about it. It's just such a common story.
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[soforene]

Where is The Vigilante Biker when we need him?

[Mr_NorthSean]

[Joncrete Cungle]

I pass by the site of this crash twice a day and I always think about the biker who was killed at the junction as I pass by. There can not be that many people called Delroy Stewart in Preston.

https://www.facebook.com/delroy.stewart.52?hc_location=event_guest

https://www.192.com/atoz/people/stewart/delroy/pr2/3611225018/

[featsoclay]

For me, it's all in the reaction. Anyone can have an accident, and even if it was your fault, it's not as if you wanted to hurt someone. Unless you were drunk or driving recklessly and knowingly putting other people in danger, I can recognise that you may be a hazard to navigation, but you're not necessarily a bad person. So, yeah, keep him off the road, but don't necessarily throw him in jail if his driving wasn't too outrageous. I can see the judge's point in the original sentence.

But once it's happened, that's when you have a chance to prove you're a decent human being. If it was your fault, admit it. If it was bad enough for you to be prosecuted, accept your punishment—and comply with it. Losing sleep is the sign of a decent person. Getting back in the car when you're banned is an insult to the person you killed and the family, it's disrespectful to the court and the law, and it shows that you don't care if you've been found by an independent authority (the judge) to be dangerous to others, you're going to do what you want, and if someone else gets killed, tough luck.

So the suspended sentence and extended driving ban for the second offence really strike me as inadequate. At least now, if he's caught driving again, he'll have to serve the suspended sentence and probably get more time on top of that. But why wait for the next offense? He might kill someone else before he's caught again.

[kiddakidda]

What cracks me up is that he feels he is the victim in all this. Comments like "I was in wrong place at the wrong time" and "My Solicitor did me no justice" make my blood boil. This guy believes he is blameless
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[Rogerborg]

If really does beg the question: is it even possible to kill a biker, show no remorse and be given anything like a proportionate sentence?

https://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/carcrash-police-378389.jpg

It's a serious question, stop smirking.
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[Alpha-9]

Partner eh, so she was a dyke
That makes her twice the woman driver, makes sense to me.

And no, they don't care. motorcycles is bad innit.
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[Rogerborg]

Full disclosure: I don't actually think she was to blame for the collision. Have a read of the comments made here after the inquest, particularly by "ty taylor".

However, for trying to cover up her use of a phone after handing out multiple tickets for same, I call fair game.

It's actually not the worst case of the CPS and courts failing bikers, not by a long shot. The one that springs to mind is the CPS saying that loss of control isn't culpable if your vehicle's tyres aren't all the exact same OEM model.

That's if you take out a biker, of course. 100 hours pickup up litter, £600 costs, a one year ban (on someone who was happy to drive uninsured). Seems to be about the ballpark value placed on our lives.

Kill a person though, and it might be a different story.
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[kernow24]

[Rogerborg]

[Andy_Pagin]

If you lie about using a mobile phone under circumstance like this, isn't that perjury or perverting the course of justice?
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[ScaredyCat]

[Alpha-9]

I don't see how killing someone because you're stupid and selfish and killing someone because you meant to is not seen as equal, it ends in the same way, someone innocent dies.

If anything if you killed someone on purpose it's actually fairer as you probably have a damn good reason, unlike just being an idiot and killing someone without noticing and not giving a shit.

Y'dig?
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[Rogerborg]

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