Car park track

1cyl · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

Using car parks as tracks:

What's up peeps. Hope you've all been enjoying some sunny blippin! So far I've milked it like a pro dairy since snow disapeared!
Anyways. I bought a new road goer pit bike mid feb (one with engine and frame numbers that actually tally v5!) and have been enjoying some fully insured 5 minute blasts into town and about my suburbs on the little 125, when I discovered that a hardly used car park near me has a perfect figure 8 that suits the stomp just grand.. See attached.

I was wondering if any of you perhaps know what laws i am breaking if I spend all summer there putting down times with my lap timer phone app.
There's never more than 3 cars every time I've been there. Never seen as many as pictured. Odd pedestrian that i slowed for. No posted speed limit. Street lit area. I just blip 30 on the back straight as I've geared the bike for top speed. Am I looking at jail or a slapped wrist for continuing lonely knee down bliss?

did a search on the laws of car parks and didnt come up with much.

P.S. that left hand access is shut, only access to car park is from right of picture. Which isn't finished in picture.

Cheers

Slim
____________________
Chase my Witch up, Catch my Snitch up.
The SMC | The Pit | Stable

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

You'll be thrown off before you can say "but..." If the car park is freely accessible from a highway then it is considered to be a road for the purposes of the law. Not only that but the owners will be terrified you'll crash and sue them, so they won't want you there either. The rozzers will turn up before you can say "Driving without due care...".
____________________
British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another.

andym · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Karma :

From the picture it looks like there is a barrier across the road.

If there is then I would try explaining to the manager what you want to do after the barrier is closed... they can only tell you to piss off at the end of the day.

I've used the homebase carpark for throwing an espace around when it was covered in snow, there were customers coming in and out and no one said anything to me

1cyl · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

Think I might push my luck at irregular 10min intervals and see how long my fun lasts. If/when plod apperates, i'll try to explain that it's a new bike that I am just trying to get a feel for, apologise and quickly skidaddle.

Cheers

Slim
____________________
Chase my Witch up, Catch my Snitch up.
The SMC | The Pit | Stable

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

bridgedino · Spanner Monkey Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Karma :

Nice 'chavvy' summer you got ahead of you. Wish I was your neighbour...not

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

Is this covedude?
____________________
W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair

1cyl · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

GrantT · Scooby Slapper Joined: 03 Jun 2011 Karma :

Are they houses to the left there? If so expect immediate phone calls to the rozzers or big angry men with baseball bats appearing very swiftly

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

1cyl · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

Yes they are houses. But the bikes über quiet. (Unlike my smc) And I shan't be blitzing when obelix and his cronies are trying to sleep.
____________________
Chase my Witch up, Catch my Snitch up.
The SMC | The Pit | Stable

Supermoto_Fan · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Karma :

BSB circuit 2014??
____________________
Yamaha MT-09 - Triple powerrrr

DrDonnyBrago · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Jan 2010 Karma :

You have no chance of getting some peaceful play time.

Find a kart track that has pit bike track days.

P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

I used mine in a closed Park and Ride once..

https://goo.gl/maps/9gyQ4 No issues.

Can't really see the issue if the bike is quiet and no one is in the area.

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

1cyl · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

GrantT · Scooby Slapper Joined: 03 Jun 2011 Karma :

P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

Cheeseybeaner · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Karma :

P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Because its a small bike, not likely to be welcomed at a race track.

Having small thing like this makes sense to me and I would happily do it.

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

I'm going by case law citations in Blackstone's "Road Policing" Manual (although ironically someone seems to have half inched my copy) that the lanes between the parking spaces have been held to be a "road". But in any case the whole thing is very likely to be a "public place" (being a place to which the public enjoy a general right of access).

In theory, you could be done for trespass if you're asked to sling your hook and don't.

If it's just called in and the rozzers roll up to find you buzzing around an empty part of the car park, then I'd expect an accusation of "inconsiderate" driving, but probably not a prosecution because "A person is to be regarded as driving without reasonable consideration for other persons only if those persons are inconvenienced by his driving". Don't bet your license on that though.

However, the accusation will be a pretext for slapping a Section 59 bike ASBO on you for sure.

Second time, they'll take the bike.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike