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Yarri
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 03 May 2013    Post subject: Sports bike for motorways ? Reply with quote

So summer is on it's way and I am feeling like getting a bike again, it's got to be a sports bike r6/zx6r/cbr/gsxr whatever will come at the best price, the plan is to use the bike to go to the shops, and ride to London 2-3 weekends each months from Wolvehampton which is about 150 miles each way, takes me 3 hours when driving by car with the Birmingham/London traffic, so should be about 2 with the bike.

Question is, will I be able to survive doing these long distances on a bike without getting really pissed off?
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 03 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I don't know, will you?

I find my CBR very comfortable on motorways.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 03 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In response: How long is a piece of string?

Only you will know if after time it becomes to much to handle because everybody is different on a subject if overtime you get bored with or tired of it riding through bad weather. If there is an accident and all the lanes are stopped then you'll be stuck as well because you will be at the mercy of other road users to make way for you or not to filter through.

I know within London bikes are extremely popular form of transport which is evident by the amount of bikes parked within the centre areas is amazing!
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 03 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could sit on my sportsbike for hours but my tourer is the man for the job for distance day in day out.

If you are 'normal' you will get fed up with m/ways on a sportsbike due to hee-haw wind protection.

If you are intent on m/way a sports-tourer would be a better option.

I used a BMW R1200GS for years on long m/way runs. I had a masoof screen on it as without it the upper body effort required to resist 80MPH wind blast became tiring.

But as said ^^^ it's up to you. Take one out on a demo and do two or three hours at m/way speed. And evaluate.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 03 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't comment on sportsbike fairings, but would go with Walloper's comments in that a bigger touring screen and fairing makes distance on the motorway far more comfortable than it would otherwise be. My Diversion 900 makes motorway miles much less strain than my ZRX1200R with its tiny headlamp cowl does, its just the fact that you've got basically still air behind the screen instead of a constant wind blast to fight with that makes it much less strain, and you are less worn out at the end of it. In wet windy conditions and a few hundred miles to go you wouldn't want to be without it once you appreciate the difference it makes.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I can deal with the sports bike position and wind blast, I don't find my divvy that much less work than my cbr was. The thing for me would be tank range, you'll be pressed to find many sports bikes that will do that 150 mile trip on a single tank of fuel. Its nice starting a journey safe in the knowledge that you won't spend a chunk of it on the lookout for a petrol station.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stuck a double bubble on the GSXR and I'm happy on motorways with that. Riding a naked bike the other week reminded me how nice it is to have a half decent screen.

Tank range is a point though, I could just about eke 150 miles out of mine but there wouldn't be much margin left. The Sprint ST I had before would do an easy 200 to the tank, which was very nice when doing any sort of distance.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Bendy, tank range would be the issue, even my XJ6 hits reserve not far after 140-150 miles.

Why get a 'sportsbike' to do straight line miles on a motorway?
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I had my 6R it did quite a few motorway miles for events or just taking the quicker route home after a rideout and never had a bother.

Managed North Circular to Wolverhampton on a tank with fuel to spare.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gsxr is a chore on the straights, the thought of doing it for 2hrs terrifies me :/

However I find riding one handed and leaning on the tank with the free arm is way more comfortable.

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PostPosted: 21:00 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you need a VFR in your life Wink
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Why get a 'sportsbike' to do straight line miles on a motorway?


Because when you arrive, ladies get moist.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
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Why get a 'sportsbike' to do straight line miles on a motorway?


Because when you arrive, ladies get moist.


Chicks don't like bikes (in general).

I could do that on the GSXR which is quite an aggressive riding style, takes some getting used to though. A CBR600F model would be less aggressive, and you still have the sportiness.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 04 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riding any bike on the motorway is a bit like eating ice cream in the winter - it's not really for what it was intended. Bike tyres are rounded and made to rotate on the corners. Motorways square off the tyres in the middle. Agreed there are times when we need to travel long and straight. The car does this so much better. If at all possible I take an alternative route to take in the twisties. Generally speaking I would not recommend a sports bike for motorways. If resigned to an M journey I tend to beat the boredom by changing lanes and speed. Sharpens up the awarenes of course - errors of judgement can be very serious. However, leaving the motorways for the City - that's when the sports bike comes in really handy - traffic busting on narrow bike is just the job!
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 05 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like riding on motorways personally. To cover ground quickly at speed you can't really beat them, I suppose they can get monotonous after a few hours in a virtually straight line but the speed keeps me interested personally, there's no place easier to ride at and sustain higher speeds with low risk and plenty of space around you.
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 05 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Whosthedaddy wrote:
Why get a 'sportsbike' to do straight line miles on a motorway?


Because when you arrive, ladies get moist.


Not when they see your squared off tyres.

I can't stand it personally, the OP suggests buying sportsbike just to go to the shops and for motorway miles. I would suggest that would be a waste, it would be tedious, and a VFR, Ducati ST or something a bit more relaxed would be a much more enjoyable experience. I've done a fair few motorway miles over the last year. It's fine but I wish I'd bought an old hack instead.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 05 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Yarri.

Owning a GSX-R myself, even with a double-bubble screen it can be a real pain on the motorway even though I fit the bike quite well and it's comfy to ride. After around thirty minutes I start wishing I was on the Pan-European instead with no wind blast at all, comfy seat, music I can hear better and heated grips! Drooling.

If you break down what you want a bike for;

1) Go to the shops. Just a quick guess say 10-20 miles maximum round trip?
2) Ride to London three times a month, 300 miles a time.

So, a month that's (max and total speculation) 1000 miles or so, of which 90% is motorways going in a straight line. I think a sports bike would be a poor choice especially if you can't find one that you're "comfortable" on. However some people can ride sports bikes for miles and miles, so you have to figure out what you can do as an individual.

However, if you can find a sports bike that is very comfortable you, can put heated grips on, a big screen, some luggage and other stuff such as sports-tourer tyres to cope with the straight-line mileage then go for it! It's an individual thing. Oh, fuel economy too, you could find yourself using a tank to get there and a tank to get back on a "sports" bike, expensive round trip!

Personally in your case I'd be on the lookout for a sports tourer or seeing if I can afford to get an older sportsbike and an older tourer-style motorcycle for the long journeys.

Why not see if you can get a test ride on a modern sportsbike and take it out for a slog of 50 miles or so on the motorway (or better yet, the actual ride you'll be doing) and see how it feels? Do the same with a sports tourer/tourer and see how you feel. I think it'd be prudent for you to at least do that first so you have an idea of how the ride itself would feel.

Anyway, long, but I hope that helps. Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 06 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:

I can't stand it personally, the OP suggests buying sportsbike just to go to the shops and for motorway miles. I would suggest that would be a waste, it would be tedious, and a VFR, Ducati ST or something a bit more relaxed would be a much more enjoyable experience. I've done a fair few motorway miles over the last year. It's fine but I wish I'd bought an old hack instead.

For going to the shops I want a light weight agile bike if I'm living somewhere with traffic.
Sitting on a motorway, it depends how much spritely filtering is going to be done and what you're doing at the other end. When skipping through town traffic, low weight does help in my experience.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 06 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Slacker24seven wrote:

I can't stand it personally, the OP suggests buying sportsbike just to go to the shops and for motorway miles. I would suggest that would be a waste, it would be tedious, and a VFR, Ducati ST or something a bit more relaxed would be a much more enjoyable experience. I've done a fair few motorway miles over the last year. It's fine but I wish I'd bought an old hack instead.

For going to the shops I want a light weight agile bike if I'm living somewhere with traffic.
Sitting on a motorway, it depends how much spritely filtering is going to be done and what you're doing at the other end. When skipping through town traffic, low weight does help in my experience.


I don't disagree with that and I've found the same. It's the bits in between that would be more pleasant on something with a bigger fairing, more relaxed riding position and quieter exhaust.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 06 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would you want a sports bike if you want to do long distances and go to the shops? Get a bike with a more comfortable upright ride, and with a rack on the back to tie stuff on or fit a top box.

Do you want to be bent over, the weight on your arms and a pack on your back for hours?
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find upright is not necessarily more comfortable. The bone at the base of your spine can cause discomfort over distance when pressed on in an upright position. I find the forward sports position more comfortable where the weight is taken more on my upper legs and stomach. Wind buffeting is often less leaning forward rather than with your head above the screen. Sports tourers with low bars are better for distance than more upright bikes IMO. I get very litte problem from my arms with clip on bars. Everyone is different and I suppose it depends on how relaxed you hold your body when riding. Bigger engine would be better for motorway miles than say a 600. I find the 600 ideal for town filtering and enjoy nipping from lane to lane on the motorway. Don't like big miles on any bike - prefer the car!
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 6R is great on the motorway for a sports bike and I can get 170 miles from a tank on a run. It is also not tiny like some bikes and I find it very comfortable. However being just over 6ft tall means that even a double bubble provides truly useless wind protection. I'm going to make myself a deflector out of an old visor and see if that helps put the wind above my head instead of directly at my face.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously you really need a bigger engine than 600cc's as a necessity for motorway miles? Rolling Eyes

For what the OP want's to do I see no problem, no issues and nothing really worth talking about regarding will a sports bike be ok for 150mile motorway journeys. Of course it will! He knows it, I knows it and so does everyone else.

I'd possibly be looking to choose a more comfortable roomy 600 in the class out of choice however. I had a J-series ZX6R, so not very relevant to choosing a 600 today, but it was more than comfy enough for 150miles at a time on the motorway/1 tank of petrol.

I wouldn't choose a sports bike with limited steering lock and the fear of damaging the bodywork etc, for extensive city use and filtering everywhere though possibly? Of course it's just as true what G etc say about using trailbikes for city use, in that tall wide bars and mirror's have their limitations, but short of riding a little scooter, I'd prefer a trailie over a sportsbike for 80% city use.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd see something with a single sided swingarm and a mainstand as desirable. Then you can get a spare wheel, keep a hard touring tyre on one and a softer sports tyre on the other and change them as and when appropriate.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not particularly more difficult with a normal paddock stand and a normal swingarm.

Maybe a couple of minutes more.

Or, of course, a random bit of wood and the side-stand if you're in the middle of nowhere Smile.

(But if you've got a spare wheel along, you can probably have a proper paddock stand easily enough Smile.
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