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stranger12
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: restricted to unrestricted DAS Reply with quote

sorry if this has been asked numerous time,

i think das exam involves taking both mod 1 and 2 without the theory test , is that correct ?

i have been riding for a year and quite comfortable taking my DAS exam without any training as I did my full restricted exam by practicing on my own and passed the first time .
at the moment I have a 125 and my plan to pass the das is to get an sv650s with ecu , restricted it and then take my test on it, is that acceptable ?
if not can I unrestrict it and put an L plate on it and then take the exam ?

many thanks
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC the goalposts moved again and now you need the theory test before you do anything.


I say moved because in the past if you got a car licence before a certain year you didn't need the theory test and could just do the DAS course.

Also you cannot ride the SV before passing any test without being accompanied by an instructor (assuming DAS). The bike needs to be setup for whatever the test is.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry slight confusion,

i have had a full car license for 6 years and full bike license for a year but restricted

do i still need theory test to go from my full bike restricted passed last year to full unrestricted?

i believe i can ride sv650 if restricted to 33bhp , are you saying that i can not ride my restricted bike to take the das exam ?
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need the theory done and dusted before you start.

You need a full power bike to do the DAS test.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a full restricted licence from last year, you can ride your bigger bike (33bhp) without retaking your DAS, then when you hit the 2 year mark remove the restrictiors and have it full power.

Not sure about what you would need to do if you wanted to do your DAS and get a full powered bike before your 2 years is up ?
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

well basically want to do wheelie and knee down courses most of which need full license unrestricted. i am aware that after 2 years the restriction will be taken off but though if i have too then i will do the das


so based on the earlier post, i can not take the das exam without being accompanied by an instructor.
I was thinking of putting the full ecu on and then stick L plate on so can take the test at the test center but guess that is illegal
Also it is very stupid that I have to pass my theory test again if I did pass it just a year ago for the bike, is this the result of the 2013 changes to licenses?
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stranger12 wrote:
well basically want to do wheelie and knee down courses


Why pay for those courses, takes practice anyway...far more than you would get in a day or 2. Better off doing a few track days.

I doubt you need an unrestricted licence as you can do all of those on a 125.
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

all of what on 125, the track days ?


what are the bike track days like, would i have a safe distance from other to comfortabley do knee down in the novice course


can i do wheelie Smile


also do they need full license or they don't care ? i am thinking of doing track days in brands hatch or silverstone

the california superbike school does really interest me but expensive
i am happy to learn knee down on my own but don't want to drop it
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brands Hatch require a full unrestricted licence.

Lydden Hill however do not.

Learning knee downs and wheelies both run the risk of crashing Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stranger12 wrote:

i am happy to learn knee down on my own but don't want to drop it




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PostPosted: 12:02 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stranger, you're at least 24, right? There's no short cut from old "A<=25kW" to new A, you need to be 24.

If so then you should be able to do "Accelerated Access" without doing another theory, but I have no idea if the DSA's system will cope since you're coming from an old "A<=25k" rather than a new "A2". You might have to just try it and see.

I do recall that the online booking demanded a theory test pass number up front, even before you got to select "Accelerated Access" - have you still got yours?

If not, or if the online booking spits its dummy then you might have to call them up and explain what you want. Use very. Short. Words.

I can't see any barrier to doing it. As long as your bike is 595cc+, 40kW+ and displaying L plates then it's suitable for an A test. You're perfectly legal to ride it at full power while on test using your provisional entitlement. I'd suggest that you also wear hi-vis. That's not a legal requirement but DSA Derek might not know that.

The only tricky bit is getting it there legally with a 25kW license. As you noted, the SV can be switched just with an ECU, and I believe the SFV650/Gladius too. Likewise, the ER6 is restricted just with a throttle stop, a little screw in the throttle body.

Alternatively, van, trailer or get a mate to pillion you in even if it's just from round the corner. Shhh!

On insurance, Swinton don't (or didn't) ask to see your license and only ask (or asked) if you have a "provisional" or a "full" license. Under their choice of definition, you can only reasonably say that you've got a full license. There will be other insurers like that, I mention Swinton just because I've used them.

So yes, you can do it all yourself, and completely legally, although you may need to be a little flexible in what you tell people as they might not know that. Wink

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PostPosted: 12:18 - 09 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks very much

i used the wrong word, i meant to say accelerated access and not das but thought that is the one that can be used to go from full restricted to unrestricted .

yes i am 25 so should be ok

thanks once gain
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