Isle of Man’s limit-free roads might breach human rights R

[Scotsman37]

https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/isle-of-mans-limit-free-roads-might-breach-human-rights/22740.html

Coroner says the lack of speed limits could contravene European Convention on Human Rights

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Human rights - invented to ensure freedom of individuals, used to curb those freedoms. Sounds like the plot of iRobot and we haven't even built a flying car, never mind a 'positronic brain'...
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FFS, it should be your human right to choose how you live your bloody life. Remember the good old days before Health and Safety, when it was called common sense? I don't... I'm too young I've just heard of it and it's a time I wish I lived
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[stinkwheel]

Mandatory Europe-wide speed limits will never happen. Ze Germans wouldn't stand for it.

The IOM has laws for careless, dangerous and (uniquely) furious driving. Regardless of the presence or absence of speed limits, going faster than the distance in which you can see to stop on open roads is at a minimum demonstrating a lack of care and attention.

So, his riding would, in my oppinion (and it's the oppinion of "the average driver" which is the legal test in cases of careless or dangerous driving) have been illegal, even though he was not contravening any speed limits.

Ze Germans do something similar. They have unrestricted highways BUT there are recommended speeds, crash while exceeding those recommended speeds and it will be held against you.
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Let the people decide then.....this is meant to be a democracy afterall.
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[Andy_Pagin]

Ever read the human rights act? It's so vague that practically anything you can think of could be considered an infringement. Probably the worst bit of legislation since the Waltham Blacks act.
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[TheBikerStig]

"That is the key to Article 2 of the European Convention of Human Rights. And Isle of Man coroner John Needham has said that the Island’s lack of speed limits on roads outside towns might fall foul of it."

Mr Needham’s comments came at the inquest into the death of motorcyclist Davy Jones

And part of his comment:

“I am troubled by the speed involved here. If it was not as high as 160 mph as estimated by the eyewitnesses then as I have found travelling at over 120mph along a straight and at or around 100mph around the blind bend of a country road is in my view extremely hazardous"

I love the irony here. Davy Jones had a ship, not a motorcycle!
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[Timbo Foggins]

As Stinkwheel said, you don't have to be breaking a speed limit to be riding in a manor which could be defined as illegal.

I saw the location of the accident, and the paint marks set out by whoever was dealing with it. Right hander, bit of a crest and between tall hedges, straight into the back of the dustbin lorry which was stopped in his lane doing exactly what you'd expect it to be doing at that time of the morning on a weekday. It could just have easily been a slow moving tractor or the postie stopped at that house.

The lack of judgement is the issue, not the lack of a defined speed limit. The section of road where the accident occured is a good example. Cronk-y-Voddy straight is a fairly good in terms of visibilty for hazards, you can easily get a fair pace on and still be "safe". You can't however say the same thing about entering the corner at the end of it at >100mph.

There is unfortunately an unnerving propensity for riders to forget they are in fact on open public roads, that they're not McPint and that nobody has closed the roads and cleared every hazard just for them to hoon round.

[CaNsA]

It might would be a wise idea to turn part of the island in a "Nürburgring ring" style road.

Pay to hoon on it etc etc.

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