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Michaeljf
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 20 May 2013    Post subject: Yamaha Fazer Reply with quote

Hi all,

So as some of you may know I was looking at selling my ER6 and buying a bandit.
I have a chap who is interested in doing a part exchange with my ER6 and cash.

It's a 1998 model and I have checked insurance and its a reasonable price.
I am looking at it tomorrow with a bike mechanic who is a mate so he should pick up on anything major but is there anything long term I should be warned about?
I know someone in my previous thread recommended a Fazer.

Michael
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Matt94
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 20 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

why the downgrade?
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Michaeljf
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 20 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mainly due to insurance costs because of my age.
Will be sad to see the ER6 go but due to financial reasons a downgrade is needed Sad
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

have a read

https://www.visordown.com/road-tests-used/buyer-guide-yamaha-fazer-600/14617.html
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PostPosted: 01:19 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My FZ6 was a 2005, had it three years, absolutely no problems at all with it.

Previous owner hadn't looked after it so there was a bit of corrosion but it didn't get any worse.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fazer's are great. A good all round bike for very reasonable money, handles lovely, very forgiving, amazing brakes and the mini fairing helps on motorway. Only downside is my wife finds it a bit too tall, but then she is only 5'2"! However, see if you can pick up the slightly late 2002-03 models. More funky foxeye styling, better mirror stalks, much better headlights and bigger fuel tank. My 2003 FZS600 will do about 220 miles on a tank, approx 50mpg.

Issues to look out for:
Sticky brakes, sometimes need a really good clean out.
Rusted downpipes (like any bike really), budget on ~£200 for set of stainless ones.
Original brakes lines may have deteriorated.
The fairing often scuffs or cracks on a drop. Check carefully, especially around indicators. Also check it sits straight, no gaps on inside, indicating bent brackets.
Check it can change up smoothly from 1st to 2nd, issues here can be result of shagged gearbox, in which case just walk away.
Now, you're looking at a 15 year old bike, so do also go over the other usual stuff, fork seals, etc

Other wise, they do generally just keep on going.
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P.addy
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt94 wrote:
why the downgrade?


Cannot see a downgrade here, nicer engine, cheap to run... can't see an issue Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there, I didn't quite get how you ended up with this heading but hay ho, the b6 is a bullet proof as your likely to get, I get that those who don't like them for what ever reason but all I can say is that when I had to give up on the sport's type bikes (due to health more than anything), I stumbled on the b12 due to the circumstance at the time but this choice was in the knowledge that a mate of mine did the Swiss Alps wit a group of four and had great fun on his b6. It's fair to say that it won't quite stay with a 999 but he wasn't to bothered about that tbh, when the time came they wouldn't do a deal with the 600 or 650 as they would have to give me too much cash so we did the deal on the 1200 and I'm so glad I did. Since owning the b12 the wife and I have done a fair amount of touring about and I an also have a play when I get out on my own, the 600 is a great little engine and doesn't mind being revved a bit and can add plenty of bling if you choose to make it your own. The truly retro look has been kept and for the sort of money you they are great bike and as long as you look after them they'll look after you.

All the best John
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're accepting a Bandit as a PX against your ER6 and you titled the thread "Yamaha Fazer"...? Or you're accepting a Fazer?
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

angryjonny wrote:
So you're accepting a Bandit as a PX against your ER6 and you titled the thread "Yamaha Fazer"...? Or you're accepting a Fazer?


He wanted a bandit 600 but someone has offered a Fazer in px for his er6 and he's asking for views on them.
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angryjonny
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah right. Fazer = good. I had an 02 and loved it.

Of course, at that sort of age the condition of the specific bike becomes more important than what make/model it is. My decision to get a FZS600 was based on every second courier in London at the time seemingly having one. Good enough for someone who rides all day every day = good enough for me.

Keep it clean and keep the salt off it.
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Michaeljf
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the confusion!!
Yes I was looking for a bandit but someone has offered me a Fazer.
Thanks for the advice guys! Much appreciated Thumbs Up

Glad some of you don't consider it a downgrade!

Michael
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yaigi
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arfa__ wrote:

Other wise, they do generally just keep on going.


I can vouch for this; Mr Yaigis has got to be the least looked after bike going, he really does the bare minimum to keep it going and it is absolutely fine, never let him down. Back brake was a bit sticky when he went out this morning so he hit it with a hammer - temporarily fixed Thumbs Up

Mine is better looked after than Mr Yaigis as I like to keep it clean (ish); I've had to replace the downpipes but other than that I've had no problems running it all winter since buying in December. I love it. It's not thrown me off either, so nice for a beginner that it does seem rather forgiving. And my goodness can it go fast when you want to Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michaeljf wrote:


Glad some of you don't consider it a downgrade!

Michael


In terms of power I think it's quite a big upgrade!
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 2001 fazer has now done 90000 miles. Ok I got knocked off it a few years ago, all it needed was a bit of plastic welding & I had it resprayed (I had the bike's name put on the front fairing Embarassed ).
I have replaced the downpipes, but I couldn't afford stainless so got steel & sprayed them. I still have original end can and baffle is now non existant, but the bike sounds beautiful. I have been to Slovenia & Italy on him as well.
Certainly not a downgrade, I would never get rid of mine - too much fun.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't be dissapointed with a Fazer, ridden a few and found them to be pretty decent bikes, ridden properly they will keep up with mates on other sportier bikes.
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deeds
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

kitty kat wrote:
Stuff


Bullbeck?
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of the 3, the Fazer is the best by far. You will wonder how you put up with the ER6 for so long. Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry Hoover wrote:
Michaeljf wrote:
Glad some of you don't consider it a downgrade!


In terms of power I think it's quite a big upgrade!


1998 Bandit - as I read it, and as I think the original comment was made - would be only 7hp up on paper, but 25 odd kg added. Would probably have lost a few hp over the years; and bandits are fairly top-heavy, so it would feel a lot less nimble overall.

A 1998 FZS600 Fazer is a better bike than either on paper - I've never ridden one of that vintage. If the condition is OK, and hasn't been dropped enough times to stop it running straight, it should be a moderate upgrade.
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kitty kat
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

deeds wrote:

Bullbeck?


Certainly is, I can be found loitering there for a short time before or after each weekend ride Smile
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Michaeljf
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I now own a fazer!
Rode it tonight and its so much smoother than the ER6!!

Absolutely love it!!

Thanks for all of your advice! Smile
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

0-60
Ferrari 6.2 Berlinetta 3.2 seconds - Fazer 3.8 seconds

Quarter mile

Ferrari 6.2 Berlinetta 12.5 seconds - Fazer 11.5 seconds

.. you won't get bored with the Fazer in a hurry.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
0-60
Ferrari 6.2 Berlinetta 3.2 seconds - Fazer 3.8 seconds

Quarter mile

Ferrari 6.2 Berlinetta 12.5 seconds - Fazer 11.5 seconds

.. you won't get bored with the Fazer in a hurry.


That's the most ridiculous comparison ever.
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Tbag
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 21 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't go wrong with a Fazer.. Mine is a '98, Its a dog to look at but runs sweet as a nut.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick a couple of pics up.
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