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Lord Percy
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Chain stretched after long motorway journey? Reply with quote

Just rode from London to North Yorkshire on Monday. Now yesterday, while doing a 10 mile stint to go see a mate, I heard an odd metal slapping noise a couple of times, so quickly pulled in to find my chain had become ridiculously slack. I presume this was caused by the 220 mile journey I made the day before. But how? Is this normal?! It's my first long run so I don't really know. When I had a new rear tyre fitted a few weeks ago the mechanic did tell me the chain and sprocket needed replacing soon, so yeah it's an old chain, but still I never thought it could be stretched so suddenly like this. Is it even possible? The only other explanation I can think of is that the mechanic didn't refit the rear wheel properly so it just loosened over time.

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I've re-tightened it and have a new chain ready to fit Thumbs Up but still I'm curious as to whether this is a normal thing or what.

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PostPosted: 10:11 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chains don't actually 'stretch' the holes where the pins are located wear in an 'oval' shape which in turn causes 'lengthening' of the chain, so I can't see this happening over a 200 mile journey. It will have been a gradual process of wear.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's nearing the end of its life, then yes.

The chain on my YBR lasted 16,000 miles; the first 12,000 miles it never needed adjusting between services. Then it started needing adjusting every month ... then very quickly started needing adjustment every week - so probably was about every 200 miles - at which point I replaced it. So your experience isn't unique - but could be a sign that you really should be changing it.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, so it is a reasonably normal thing Thumbs Up . I'll be honest... I didn't even remotely check the chain tension before I set off Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed but on the other occasions when I have looked at it, nothing was ever any worse than before. Oh well, chain is dying, I'll stick the new one on soon Karma Thumbs Up Tah!
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sa1988 wrote:
Sure, so it is a reasonably normal thing Thumbs Up . I'll be honest... I didn't even remotely check the chain tension before I set off Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed but on the other occasions when I have looked at it, nothing was ever any worse than before. Oh well, chain is dying, I'll stick the new one on soon Karma Thumbs Up Tah!


I recommend changing the chain and sprockets as a set, as they will all have worn 'as one' so by fitting just a new chain you will run the risk of premature wearing.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The chain on my YBR lasted 16,000 miles; the first 12,000 miles it never needed adjusting between services. Then it started needing adjusting every month ... then very quickly started needing adjustment every week - so probably was about every 200 miles - at which point I replaced it. So your experience isn't unique - but could be a sign that you really should be changing it.


Exactly my experience with my CBF125, chain only needed slight adjustment for 12,500 miles, then quickly went to needing adjustment every week / 300 miles, changed it a 14,500 miles.
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Lord Percy
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:


I recommend changing the chain and sprockets as a set, as they will all have worn 'as one' so by fitting just a new chain you will run the risk of premature wearing.


Yep, that's why I haven't put it on yet. Looking at sprockets now. I would have bought it all together but the chain was a bit of a rapid emergency buy after what happened yesterday. The rear sprocket teeth have definitely seen better days.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain and Sprocket Wear:

The pins will wear the bushes which will affect the pitch of the chain. Pitch is the distance between the centre of the pins.
This in effect will be like putting a chain with a 'too big pitch' on the sprockets.

So when a worn 'too big pitch' chain runs over the sprockets the bushes do not meet the places in the sprocket properly but will grind away anything in their path. Causing hooking and chipping.

This is why you always fit new with new. A worn sprocket may not affect a new chain but the new chain will eat the old sprocket.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find you can often sensibly fit a second chain without new sprockets but it won't last as long as the first one.
It isn't a recipe for disaster, but if you don't know what a previous owner did/didn't do, it makes sense to do a full swap.
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