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Fifteen15
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Buying car tax online Reply with quote
Bought a car the other day and it was delivered this morning. It is MOT'd and will be insured as of 00:00 tonight. Tomorrow, if I get it taxed online, can I drive it as soon as I've taxed it even though I don't have a tax disc?
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charlie74
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
technically no, as your still legally required to display a valid tax disc

however, it should update onto the database as being taxed over night so wont show on ANPR systems as untaxed

they are quick to post it out and usually arrives in under a week, tbh its better to just go to the post office and buy it over the counter
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Re: Buying car tax online Reply with quote
Fifteen15 wrote:
Bought a car the other day and it was delivered this morning. It is MOT'd and will be insured as of 00:00 tonight. Tomorrow, if I get it taxed online, can I drive it as soon as I've taxed it even though I don't have a tax disc?

You can drive any car / bike without a tax disc.

If you buy it online then the computer system should flag it as taxed. So any checks done based on the plate (cop car, camera van, whatever) should come back as ok and not stop you.

However, be aware there is an offence of 'failure to display'. This is still on the books despite the move to computers and real-time checking. It allows the likes of traffic wardens (genuine ones, hard to find nowadays) and cops who have stopped you for something else to have a go at you. A 'fine' of £60 iirc and no points. Most bikers get away with it with reasonable cops by carrying the licence in wallet/pocket and explaining it's been nicked in the past. That's harder to get away with with a car.

charlie74 wrote:
... tbh its better to just go to the post office and buy it over the counter
Depends if you get an electronic copy (printable) of insurance certificate to present at post office. Even then I've had counter jockeys demand an original (checked for paper watermark). Think that's changing now more stuff is bought online though. Otherwise you need to wait for all the paperwork.
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Joncrete Cungle
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
If it is taxed, insured, has a valid MOT and registered keeper it will tick all the ANPR boxes. But failing to display the tax disc is an 'offence' I would keep the print out of the transaction in the glove box 'til the tax turns up.


It MIGHT sway a rozzer in to turning a blind eye in the unlikely event of you being pulled up if you can prove you are waiting for the disc in the post. DVLA send them second class so it can take a while to arrive. I think they invite you to pay their masters a bribe of £60 or report you to the DVLA who will then invite you to pay them a bribe.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/section/33

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Not exhibiting licence.(1)A person is guilty of an offence if—
(a)he uses, or keeps, on a public road a vehicle in respect of which vehicle excise duty is chargeable, and
(b)there is not fixed to and exhibited on the vehicle in the manner prescribed by regulations made by the Secretary of State a licence for, or in respect of, the vehicle which is for the time being in force.
[F1(1A)A person is guilty of an offence if—
(a)he uses, or keeps, on a public road an exempt vehicle,
(b)that vehicle is one in respect of which regulations under this Act require a nil licence to be in force, and
(c)there is not fixed to and exhibited on the vehicle in the manner prescribed by regulations made by the Secretary of State a nil licence for that vehicle which is for the time being in force.]
(2)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) [F2or (1A)] is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 1 on the standard scale.
[F3(3)Subsections (1) and (1A)—
(a)have effect subject to the provisions of regulations made by the Secretary of State, and
(b)are without prejudice to sections 29 [F4, 31A] and 43A.]
[F5(4)The Secretary of State may make regulations prohibiting a person from exhibiting on a vehicle [F6which is kept or used on a public road] anything—
(a)which is intended to be, or
(b)which could reasonably be,
mistaken for a licence which is for, or in respect of, the vehicle and which is for the time being in force.]
[F7(5)The reference to a licence in subsection (4) includes a reference to a nil licence.]


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Kai.Wilson
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
You get 5 days for it to come and put in the car
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you tax online, Shirley, the disk will go to the current registered keeper since DVLA are very unlikely to have changed that yet.

Stupid system and the sooner we do away with the silly bits of paper the better.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah yes the Department of Vehicle Levy Administrators, making their own rules since 1972.

Give you the option to buy online, force you into predicament for non display - Hetzer levels, rising, rising.....

edit: why the fuck can they not just get rid of the shitty tax disc system and just put it on fuel ffs
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you insure it at midnight or whatever, don't expect DVLA to notice for a week or 2. My bike is now showing as insured, despite being added Thursday. Wasn't there till today Laughing
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andyscooter
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
disk will go to original owner

great if its someone you know

not so good if you bought the car from 100 or so miles away from a complete stranger
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
_Will_ wrote:
Hetzer levels, rising, rising.....


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