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Jrod
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Insurance Reply with quote

Right if you have a claim made aggaint you will it pu your insurance up? Or will it be like having 0 NCB again?
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are found to be liable you will lose NCB, but how much depends on your insurance company. I lose 1 year per claim with Carole Nash, whereas Bennets have a scale of more than 4 years to 3 years, 4 years to 2 years, 3 years to 1 year and 2 years to 0. Best to clarify with your insurer. And you can expect this loss to be reflected in your premium.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will no longer have any NCB and you will have to declare that you've had a claim, "Have you had any claims or convictions?" and then you have to give them the details.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Standard loss of NCB is 2 years ncb (from your total at the time of the claim) per claim, unless you have either protected or guaranteed NCB, or your insurance company can make a full recovery from another party's insurer. For example if you had 3 years at the time of a claim and they paid out, your renewal would be based on 1 years NCB. If you claimed and your insurance co recovered all their costs from another company, then your insurance would renew with no loss of NCB. Whether you would actually get an extra years ncb as you had claimed may depend on the company.

As for Jammy's thread, if no insurance company has been involved I wouldn't tell them about it.

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Jrod
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the moment i have 0 NCB, I've only been on the road 3 months. If i claim is my insurance going to go up next year?
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you personally make a claim against someone else than that does not affect your insurance. If someone else makes a claim against you, so that you cost the insurance company money, your insurance will go up. Basically they don't like people who cost them money.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zxr400er wrote:
At the moment i have 0 NCB, I've only been on the road 3 months. If i claim is my insurance going to go up next year?


All insurance goes up as a result of a claim, even if the insurance company then makes a full recovery. Obviously though, a claim which affects your ncb will weight your insurance premium more than one that doesn't, especially if you have ncb to lose in the first place.

However in your case, this could very well be entirely offset by the reduction in premium for being a year older and having a years more riding experience.

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PostPosted: 15:14 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does this NCB business work anyway?

Once you renew your insurance, does your company send you out a sheet saying so? How do you prove to other insurance companies that you've got an NCB?
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't the woman pull out on you though? Any witnesses?

What's she claiming against you for?

"He scratched my car when I pulled out in front of him, I want some compensation"

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PostPosted: 16:02 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
How does this NCB business work anyway?

Once you renew your insurance, does your company send you out a sheet saying so? How do you prove to other insurance companies that you've got an NCB?


In the most basic terms you get a years no claims bonus for every full policy term you go without making a claim. Either within a set of renewal documents, or once your policy has lapsed, you will have a letter stating your ncb entitlement for you to pass on to your next company. If you cancel or lapse a policy and you don't have another vehicle to insure, your ncb will be valid for 2 years, after which time you'll have to start all over again.

For car insurance, windscreen claims (if you have cover) generally don't count as a claim for ncb purposes. When you make a claim you won't get a years no claims bonus for the year you claimed in, and if either the claim is still in negotiation at renewal, or is settled and your insurance company hasn't been able to recover all of their costs, you will lose up to 2 years of your ncb (I say up to as you can't lose what you don't have). If a claim is subsequently settled after your renewal, they will reinstate your ncb, and if you are still insured with them, amend your policy and issue any refund/reduce any future payments accordingly, or if you are not, then they will send you an amended letter with your new ncb entitlement.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: 16:41 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yams wrote:
Didn't the woman pull out on you though? Any witnesses?

What's she claiming against you for?

"He scratched my car when I pulled out in front of him, I want some compensation"

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Yes she did, But she got a witness saying I was going to fast and she indicated. I have a witness but I havn't spoke to him since the event Confused I might just let her have it Confused So much hassle Sad This is what I wanted to avoid.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zxr400er wrote:
I might just let her have it Confused So much hassle Sad This is what I wanted to avoid.

I believe that is for the insurance company to decide who is at fault and who pays who as they're the ones signing the cheque.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The letter they sent me says along the lines of "We will pay her in 14 days if you don't contact us and say you don't agree."
I might leave it Confused What would you do, I don't want the hassle of a fight for it but then i'm gonna pay my excess ? I hate not knowing what im doing. Mad
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zxr400er wrote:
The letter they sent me says along the lines of "We will pay her in 14 days if you don't contact us and say you don't agree."
I might leave it Confused What would you do, I don't want the hassle of a fight for it but then i'm gonna pay my excess ? I hate not knowing what im doing. Mad


If it wasn't your fault, then fight it all the way! Don't let some dopy bint get away with it if it was her fault. Do it on principle even if nothing else. Lawyers and insurance companies are there to do the work for you, that's why they are there in the first place.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where does your excess come into it? Confused

Might as well send them your account of what happened along with the details of your witness and let the insurance companies argue and decide who is at fault, the worst that will happen is they decide you're at fault and give her the cheque, but they might decide she was at fault or split the blame 50:50 (could be split anything, jus tan example) and you then get given a cheque.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
you then get given a cheque.


I've already repaired the bike, Will I just need to provide reciepts for the damage?
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't claim you're leaving yourself open to get screwed for now and for insurance for future years to come. If you do claim, you have nothing to lose apart from a small amount of time. I'd have thought it was a no-brainer, unless you can afford/like to pour money down the drain.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zxr400er wrote:
Yes she did, But she got a witness saying I was going to fast and she indicated


If she says you were going to fast then it means she saw you but decided to pull out anyway. She possibly just admitted to dangerous driving Wink .

Definatly don't just give in, as you will get screwed over on insurance for 5 years (or so) afterwards.

How fast were you going? Unless you were seriously over the limit then it is unlikely that Joe Public with no experience of bikes can estimate your speed in relation to the limit with any accuracy (studies in the past have shown that people consistantly overestimate the speed of motorcycles).

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PostPosted: 18:31 - 01 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zxr400er wrote:
I've already repaired the bike, Will I just need to provide reciepts for the damage?

I don't know, I would expect so but receipts mean nothing unless it is a receipt for something which was actually needed. I'd hang onto the old front fairing so that the insurance company can see it.

Also, I assume that the front fairing was not the only part which was damaged as they'll pay out for all the damage to your bike and for any injuries you got from the crash.

As Maurice says, you should at least try to claim as you have nothing to lose apart from the time it takes you to fill in the forms etc which isn't much unless you like throwing money away.

I would say you really should claim and speak with your insurance company about things like repairing the bike as they can actually tell you the facts.
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