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sidewinder
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: A good reason not to buy a Chinese bike Reply with quote

A good mate of mine bought himself a 2012 plate tmec 125 .bike had only done 1500mls from new.
Riding along today there wasa loud bang and this happened
https://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/sidewinder11/4b14ce531cd089a17d12798a1cb8d4ad_zps70535ebf.jpg

Part of the hub sheared of completely causing him to nearly come of and locking the rear wheel in the swingarm.not impressed by this and fucking dangerous build quality Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course it looks obviously looked after so we can rule out lack of maintenance.

Look at the amount of shit in the photo, that's shockingly filth for 1500 miles
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

He did look after it general maintainence etc.most of that muck is just crap .the rear sprocket is also a piece of shit paint started pealing of it from new Thumbs Up .still that should not of snapped of like that though Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A photo of the whole bike? That looks really mistreated for a start.

I've had less rust on all my bikes combined.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised 1500 miles

that rim is a real state

as a previous owner of 2 Chinese bikes (they both served there propose) maintenance has to be very regular almost to an anal extent or they will fail quickly, i bought my skyjet new in 2008 and sold it in 2011 in rather good order (by no means mint though) never had a failure to that extent and i put about 8000km on it,

to be fair it looks like one of the common problems Chinese bikes suffer has caused the damage, the bearings are made of cheese and it would not surprise me if the bearing has seized or collapsed, then the bearing has rotated in the housing and heat has caused the collapse,

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just shitty Chinese build quality.... Twisted Evil

about time they either outlawed them or gave more stringent quality control
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

T cut will sort that out.....
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
A photo of the whole bike? That looks really mistreated for a start.

I've had less rust on all my bikes combined.


Would disagree, that's 2012 with 1500 miles, that material is just sub standard shite to fail like that. The corrosion while shocking and an indicator of the quality was still just surface.

More pics though definitely.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick pressure wash and push some brie into the gaps, better than new (and it won't corrode Laughing )

On a more serious note - he's had it for a year which would seem to be the average expected lifespan for a chink. It's one of those cases where you 'pays your money you takes your pick'.
Unfortunately not good for him but it really is about time people understood that if you are going to suscribe to the 'throwaway society' mentality then it will eventually bite you in the butt.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 1000 mile stored in a compound 2011)Keeway had no rust on it, this bike looks abused.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is terrible, irrelevant of what people were saying about maintenance it should not look remotely like that after 1500 miles. Even with no bike maintenance at all
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't even tell what I'm looking at from that picture but there is a whole load of corrosion.

That much corrosion could easily happen in a surprisingly short period of time on any bike given sufficient willful neglect. Such as parking a salt-encrusted bike in a dark and dingy corner of a back garden overwinter.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres a chinese 12 plate bike up the road from me and the corrosion is shocking even with lack of care and attention.

My indian made cbf125 would be fit for space travel compared to that chinese piece of shit.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the wheel off a courier bike that's done 250,000 miles. But I've seen the shocking build quality of some Chinese bikes at first hand - Chitumas are especially dreadful. My brother had one and the back wheel (wire spoked) collapsed after 2000 miles of moderate commuter use.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised there allowed to be sold here tbh
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinky bikes are pretty poor, I notice that particular model is manufactured at the Sumtingwong factory.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
I'm surprised there allowed to be sold here tbh


Christ, they are not that bad, this one could have been left covered in shit for weeks, stuff like this happens.

Mine, was fine, pretty much mint when I got it and had been sat in a yard for a year. All it takes is a little cleaning and making sure the bits that get the most wear and tear are sorted, this one looks like it has been neglected.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

talking to him he said there is a lot of play in the swingarm now to ..now need to find a wheel that will fit a tmec enduro 125.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sidewinder wrote:
talking to him he said there is a lot of play in the swingarm now to ..now need to find a wheel that will fit a tmec enduro 125.


Scrap it.

Get an actual XR125, save the hassle Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:49 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilDawson8270 wrote:
of course it looks obviously looked after so we can rule out lack of maintenance.

Look at the amount of shit in the photo, that's shockingly filth for 1500 miles


Confusing statement! How much 'maintenance' does one usually need to give a wheel hub in order to stop this? I can't say Ive ever had a hub fail on me nor felt the need to pay any kind of special attention to maintaining one. Just illustrates the dangerous build quality of these bikes. A bit of dirt shouldnt cause wheel failure! The finish and metal quality should be sufficient to withstand this sort of thing.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 02 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

and if all Chinese bikes only last 12 months why is mine almost 7 years old now?
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 03 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: A good reason not to buy a Chinese bike Reply with quote

sidewinder wrote:
only done 1500mls from new.

I smell bullshit.

Probably only 1500km. Wink

Anyway, what you meant to say was: "A good reason not to buy a TMEC 125 and [from the crud on there] take it offroad".

I fully agree with that, I've seen/heard quite a few stories like this. They have the looks, not the ability.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 03 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i.p.phrealy wrote:
and if all Chinese bikes only last 12 months why is mine almost 7 years old now?


Obviously lumping all Chinese bikes into one category is stereotypical, there will always be exceptions. I have worked on several, had people try to flog me one's 'that just need...' and rarely hear of one's with anything over 10000km on the clock that actually run.
Yours may well be the next Vincent 'Black Shadow' with 1/4 million miles on the clock (sorry 400k km) but I very much doubt it.

Chinese quality control can be absolutely non existent and more often than not it is generally only the multi-national firms who use China to build their products who implement any kind of QC.

Poor maintenance on a bike will lead to parts failing but 1500km on a new bike and then your hub collapses? It may be the only one that's ever done it and the OP's mate has been unlucky but I very much doubt it.

The scariest thing I find about this whole Chinese Bike production is that they are now moving into the larger bike sector and whilst riding a 125 is no more dangerous than a 650 it would probably have a far different end result if you were booting up the motorway and had the above happen.

(Am I turning into Teflon???)
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 03 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
(Am I turning into Teflon???)


mentalboy - 3rd Nov 2012 wrote:
Crap, I'm turning into Teflon Laughing


Still no.

Add a few passages about an unrelated subject, get a few things wrong, string it out across 30,000 words, spell it badly and use CAPITALS instead of grammar and you might be half way there.





OP - pics of the rest of the bike.

Is the orange ring around the outside supposed to be a sprocket? Looks very abused.
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