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PostPosted: 20:14 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Ear plugs that allow sound? Reply with quote

After reading the other thread I suppose it's about time I bought some ear plugs. Are there any that just block out all the high frequency wind noise but allow all the other noise?

I like hearing everything Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure, in the army we get issued sets that do two things. Ones to block all sound, such as when riding in armoured vehicles or helicopters, and ones that allow most sound (such as talking) but then blocks out gun shots. Quite if wind noise would be counted in this category, I don't know. I could try my own ones out and let you know!
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ear plugs won't block out 'all' sound, just the harmful frequencies, you can still hear the engine, other vehicles, can hear people talking. Just sounds a bit muted I guess is the best description.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My main bugbear with ear plugs is that when I ride my bike without them, I'm hearing every tiny noise the engine makes and the paranoia kicks in Smile
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

These kind just remove the loud wind noise and turn the volume down on everything else. You can still hear what's going on around you.

In contrast, the ear defenders I wore while working airside at an airport blocked out everything. They didn't look like much (not that different from those plugs above, but on a headband type thing) but it wasn't until you adjusted them while an ATR-42's engines were running 30 feet away that realized just how much they noise they were blocking!
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My exhaust sounds really fruity with plugs in but wind noise and other high frequencies have always denied me that before.

I would warn though, your sense of speed is skewed somewhat with them in.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last time I wore ear plugs was in cadets when firing off blanks, they were yellow squishy ones and I couldn't hear anything apart from myself breathing, hated it!
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalangel wrote:
the ear defenders I wore while working airside at an airport


How were they different? Picture please Thumbs Up Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using foam 35db ones, and I can still hear the engine (and sirens) just fine.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:
Ear plugs won't block out 'all' sound, just the harmful frequencies, you can still hear the engine, other vehicles, can hear people talking. Just sounds a bit muted I guess is the best description.

Pedant...okay, some ear plugs 'reduce' all frequencies, others selectively.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Ear plugs that allow sound? Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
After reading the other thread I suppose it's about time I bought some ear plugs. Are there any that just block out all the high frequency wind noise but allow all the other noise?

Bog standard ones filter out the high frequency stuff, because that's what does the damage.

You have to go out of your way to look for "musician" earplugs or similar to get ones that will block out low frequencies.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howard Leight Fusion

3 quid on eBay. Reusable too.

Recommended on here and thought I'd try a pair. Seems to block out all the right noises; never had a problem hearing a horn, siren etc. Used Max Lites before - if you want simulated deafness try those Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As they are cheap and they will be in your lugholes for hours I suggest trying a selection.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will head down to the ear plug shop and try some ear plugs on Laughing

Thanks for the suggestions I shall try some Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would warn though, your sense of speed is skewed somewhat with them in.


I have never had this. Don't get what people don't like about earplugs. They just make things a bit quieter, you can still hear everything.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattJ wrote:
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I would warn though, your sense of speed is skewed somewhat with them in.


I have never had this. Don't get what people don't like about earplugs. They just make things a bit quieter, you can still hear everything.


In my case I found that knocking wind noise on the head lowered my perception of speed and I was often going faster than I imagined. It's a similar but opposite effect to opening a car window on the motorway.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try music/drum shops too, I have some docs pro plugs that take the edge off when practicing as they don't kill all the sound.
With the added benefit that as they are clear silicone when you take your helmet off you don't look like you have a near terminal ear wax problem.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i ended up with those howard leight ones but i tried the bumper pack lite from these guys first.
https://www.earplugged.co.uk/acatalog/Trial_pack_of_earplugs.html
it gave me a reasonable idea of which size/shape worked best for me.
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PostPosted: 04:12 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sa1988 wrote:


How were they different? Picture please Thumbs Up Mr. Green


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PostPosted: 04:35 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06:05 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use these Halfords brand bullet-shaped ones. A bag of 26 last a long time.

Like others here, I don't understand the antipathy toward ear plugs. I hear the engine and surrounding traffic much better with them in because it cuts out the wind noise. I have a relatively noisy lid, though (a Shoei XR1100 with about 10,000 vents or so). My wife often goes without ear plugs and claims her helmet is very quiet.
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

esullivan wrote:
Like others here, I don't understand the antipathy toward ear plugs. I hear the engine and surrounding traffic much better with them in because it cuts out the wind noise.


But this doesn't apply to junctions when you're moving very slowly or even at a standstill. It's here, arguably, that the extra bit of hearing comes in useful. VERY useful, at blind junctions. So much so that I personally wouldn't be "without my ears", as it were. But then, I don't feel that biking is damaging my hearing. That may well change when my average speed increases by 10-20-30mph, which it seems almost bound to as I ride bigger bikes.

However, that said, I don't like the isolation created by ear plugs, closed visors and overly protective clothing. It's like riding in a vacuum - a bubble of uninvolved weirdness divorced from reality. It's like being a bloody spaceman! I appreciate this is a pretty damn polarising issue for those who ride, but I personally like to get a good feel for what's going on around me, at all times - and ime ear plugs are part of the thing that prevent this.

That includes cues for speed, traffic conditions and everything else out there. Riding with visor up as much as possible, taking as much info from audible info as I can, and not being lulled into a potentially dangerous feeling of security by gear-on-gear-on-gear is all part of this, imo.

That might strike many as contentious and at odds with the prevailing wisdom - but that doesn't mean it's irrational. Caveat - if I ever have to do big motorway miles on a bike expect the above to change. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.specsavers.co.uk/hearing/hearing-aids/hearing-protection/

The motosoft ones. They look expensive at £21.99 and I cannot attest to them but I use the Sleepsoft ones and they're truly incredible. I thought a colleague was taking the piss when they said they were good. He even personally offered to refund me if they didn't work.

I'd give 22 quid a shot before I started looking for customs.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
But this doesn't apply to junctions when you're moving very slowly or even at a standstill. It's here, arguably, that the extra bit of hearing comes in useful. VERY useful, at blind junctions. So much so that I personally wouldn't be "without my ears", as it were. But then, I don't feel that biking is damaging my hearing. That may well change when my average speed increases by 10-20-30mph, which it seems almost bound to as I ride bigger bikes....


I don't completely disagree with you. The year or so I spent riding 125s (a scooter and then a geared bike), I didn't wear ear protection. I didn't feel the need and I ride mostly suburban or urban roads at 30, maybe 45 max. And when I heard of the issue, I resisted a long time before starting to wear them. But once I did, it was a revelation. I wear very heavy duty (NRR 39) ear plugs and I still hear everything, even birds tweeting in the trees. It's just quieter and engine noise is actually more distinct and easier to hear.

The only big downside with them is that I have trouble comprehending speech at normal volume levels. I can hear the talking; I just have trouble making out what's said. This is a problem when riding with my wife or paying for petrol (if the cashier says anything unusual).
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tungtvann wrote:
Not sure, in the army we get issued sets that do two things. Ones to block all sound, such as when riding in armoured vehicles or helicopters, and ones that allow most sound (such as talking) but then blocks out gun shots. Quite if wind noise would be counted in this category, I don't know. I could try my own ones out and let you know!


You can find such on ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Combat-Arms-Ear-Plugs-Latest-Army-Issue-with-Storage-Case-/380599846106?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item589d84c4da
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