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jjdugen
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: E-Bay scam? Reply with quote

Hi all.
There have been a few posts about a possible scam when selling bikes. My brother is selling his car and got the following message through E-Bay. Sounds very similar to the guy on the oil rigs mentioned in past posts.
We are treating it as a scam, but can't quite figure out how it works. If a courier comes to pick up your machine and the money has been remitted through Pay Pal, surely that's the end of the matter? This is the message he received. Some of the phrasing does not ring quite true:-


I confirm the receipt of your email and I am glad to know that the car is in good condition.


I have actually tried to get this car earlier but most of the ones I got either had one huge fault or the other while some have even had accidents in the past while the rest were really very exorbitant.



I am actually trying to get this car for my first son who will be adding a year to his age in about 2 weeks. So I think its worth paying whatever the shipping charges will be just to put a laughter on his face.



As to the price, the £2600 seems to be very reasonable. To seal this transaction in earnest, I will be very glad to make the payment asap through my PayPal account as I am currently offshore and I won't definitely be able to make it to my bank to make bank transfer to you.



As to shipping, you need not worry yourself about how the car will get to me in Ireland as I will contact a shipping company here who will handle that.



Do get back to me asap with your PayPal Email address and Full name so that I can remit the payment asap.



Cheers,



Linda
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Treat everything as a scam until someone turns up with cash, cash only, cold hard cash.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scam.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When messages are worded like that it's an obvious scam, clearly not an English speaker.

Messages like "can i buy yer car m8 its well nice" are more normal on ebay Razz These "dear sir or madam i am liking your motor vehicle i will be paying full amount for my son who works on oil rig thanking you for reading plz reply".
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone saying buying 'from offshore' = highly suspect straight away.
A legit buyer just would not be doing this as they'd be worried laying out cash.
Also note the curious lack of ability to use online banking.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cash cash and only cash no matter what.

I refused a sale of my 125 as the guy at first agreed cash but then said he'd send a cheque.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a scam. Don't touch it with a bargepole.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

PayPal is probably the most unsafe thing to use if you are a seller...
Even if you send a item recorded delivery and the buyer puts in a claim for a refund they will 99.9% of the time get a refund.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly the email I got a month ago, with 'car' being replaced by 'bike'.

Scam
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: E-Bay scam? Reply with quote

Scam artist wrote:
So I think its worth paying whatever the shipping charges will be just to put a laughter on his face.


lol wut
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: E-Bay scam? Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:
Scam artist wrote:
So I think its worth paying whatever the shipping charges will be just to put a laughter on his face.

lol wut

That. Find a distinctive phrase in the OBVIOUS SCAM EMAIL, and Google it, with "quotes" around it.

You'll find that he's so willing to pay shipping charges that he's even trying to put a laughter on his face by buying from Australia...
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mossi123uk wrote:

Even if you send a item recorded delivery and the buyer puts in a claim for a refund they will 99.9% of the time get a refund.


This is just not true at all.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
mossi123uk wrote:

Even if you send a item recorded delivery and the buyer puts in a claim for a refund they will 99.9% of the time get a refund.


This is just not true at all.


It is, unfortunately.

We had people say they never received items and that the signature wasn't theirs.

Got a full refund when they complained to the bank. Same thing happens with paypal.

We live in a world of dishonest cunts.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:

It is, unfortunately.

We had people say they never received items and that the signature wasn't theirs.

Got a full refund when they complained to the bank. Same thing happens with paypal.

We live in a world of dishonest cunts.


I have had people try this countless amounts of times. As long as I send proof to ebay/paypal that we sent to their registered address and that I have proof of delivery they side with me everytime a and refuse the refund.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: E-Bay scam? Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
That. Find a distinctive phrase in the OBVIOUS SCAM EMAIL, and Google it, with "quotes" around it.

You'll find that he's so willing to pay shipping charges that he's even trying to put a laughter on his face by buying from Australia...


Exactly, this one too is always cropping up.

Scam artist wrote:
As to the price, the £2600 seems to be very reasonable. To seal this transaction in earnest, I will be very glad to make the payment asap through my PayPal account


Earnest?

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PostPosted: 12:44 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a scam, you'll usually find there paying from a company account which if you look into the company is actually folded or something similar

In my experience, something which doesn't seem like good English, in the sense it sounds like its been translated on the Internet, means there either thick as shit or it's some sort of auto message/scam etc

Cash only for anything expensive, or direct bank transfer prior to pick up, that way your never taking a risk
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offer Western Union and tell him he can arrange collection when you're holding the cash in your hand.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
I have had people try this countless amounts of times. As long as I send proof to ebay/paypal that we sent to their registered address and that I have proof of delivery they side with me everytime a and refuse the refund.


Can we do a test, I'll but a £5 item, request refund and see if I get it, obviously you'll get the item back Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:53 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
shereen wrote:
I have had people try this countless amounts of times. As long as I send proof to ebay/paypal that we sent to their registered address and that I have proof of delivery they side with me everytime a and refuse the refund.


Can we do a test, I'll but a £5 item, request refund and see if I get it, obviously you'll get the item back Laughing


No problem. Thumbs Up

I will point out that sometimes Ebay will refund the buyer out of their own pocket - this does not effect the seller and they keep the money from the original transaction. This is when Ebay find neither party at fault.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No ebay, purely paypal.

Paypal is biased by some arseholes that got ripped off in a previous life and now side with buyers like its a fucking war Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: E-Bay scam? Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
Hi all [...]
Cheers,
Linda


Greetings are being to you friend!

I am interesting the motorcyclings in ebay for mine! To be paying I must be have the money requesting you as have. Motorcycle gift son.

Respond I am pleasing you for motor to selling be on infinate cost! I producing to have will of receipt sales PayPal. Is better yes.

I greet you cordially,
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said this is clearly a scam.

I have had similar emails when selling computer bits. when they get hold of my email address they sent me a fake paypal transaction notice - looked legit but logging in to paypal soon proved it wasn't.

In other cases they do sometimes have control of a stolen account and send the money but they can send it by paypal cheque method which can be cancelled within 14 days IIRC or they can just claim it back.

Cash in hand is the only way to go.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
No ebay, purely paypal.

Paypal is biased by some arseholes that got ripped off in a previous life and now side with buyers like its a fucking war Laughing


I actually find paypal better than ebay when it comes to seller protection. Neutral
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grettings and praise the lord!

Monies pleas.
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