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Stuster
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: BCF Help For Hero's Bike??? Just a thought... Reply with quote

Hey Guys...

Just having a think of what to do with the NC30 parts I have left in my garage... Now it occurs to me there is a lot of us that probably have a shed load of stuff left over from builds. Who thinks it would be a good idea to do a kind of build, Help for hero's bike, Will put the idea forward to Korn today see what the MOD's think... Even business owners could chip in for a bit of free advertising???

Think maybe a few people could get together and do the build... Have a vote on who does it and who is willing to donate some time??

If we go for the NC30 i vote Tim.. haha

So any thoughts on this guys would be great, idea's, theme, paint... What about a track day bike? Keep it simple?
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt it, since Help for heroes' kind of glorifies wars which are fought for corporate profits.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:05 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
I doubt it, since Help for heroes' kind of glorifies wars which are fought for corporate profits.


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PostPosted: 12:11 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, ok then what ever you guys think... not looking for this thread to turn into a political argument... its just a thought thats all...

Thanks any how Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuster wrote:
haha, ok then what ever you guys think... not looking for this thread to turn into a political argument... its just a thought thats all...

Thanks any how Thumbs Up

Perhaps best not to have used a political organisation (sorry, charridy) as the target for your suggestion then Smile.

For me, doing your job does not make you a 'hero', which makes me dislike the organisation from the start.

Why not the much fashionable 'British legion'?
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

like i say, i am open to suggestions, you think people will be more inclined to do this for the BL???

And i don't support the war, just the bloke fighting it.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you support the Royal British Legion?
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Why don't you support the Royal British Legion?


Do you? and where does it say i don't?...

I donate to several charity's for ex service men. Help for Hero's isn't one of them hence the reason for this idea. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

can open... Worms everywhere!!! Rolling Eyes haha
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuster wrote:

And i don't support the war, just the bloke fighting it.

So you support people that choose to go and fight the war, but not the war it's self?

Pre 11/9, I could understand it as they didn't really know what they're were getting themselves in for, but anyone that jointed up after 2002 or whatever doesn't really have that excuse!
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Stuster wrote:

And i don't support the war, just the bloke fighting it.

So you support people that choose to go and fight the war, but not the war it's self?

Pre 11/9, I could understand it as they didn't really know what they're were getting themselves in for, but anyone that jointed up after 2002 or whatever doesn't really have that excuse!


you mean the people providing for their families ?
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuster wrote:
like i say, i am open to suggestions,


Here's a couple:

1. Learn to spell "heroes".

2. Stop using the word "heroes" to encompass all squaddies.

3. Post something puerile in response to this.*


*That last one isn't a suggestion, it's a prediction.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Stuster wrote:

And i don't support the war, just the bloke fighting it.

So you support people that choose to go and fight the war, but not the war it's self?

Pre 11/9, I could understand it as they didn't really know what they're were getting themselves in for, but anyone that jointed up after 2002 or whatever doesn't really have that excuse!


I joined after 2002... Your opinion on the war is your opinion... I don't want this to turn into the wrongs and rites ok, as said a few times on this already Exclamation

I am looking to do something to support Soldiers that have been hurt during combat of while serving... Now if you don't support it, thats fine. This is the general chat part, go do your own thread on the reasons you oppose the war and charity's and such organisations. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your thread has been hijacked, charity isn't a word that should be used on BCF.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
Stuster wrote:
like i say, i am open to suggestions,


Here's a couple:

1. Learn to spell "heroes".

2. Stop using the word "heroes" to encompass all squaddies.

3. Post something puerile in response to this.*


*That last one isn't a suggestion, it's a prediction.


Oh and here we have a keyboard warrior Laughing who like to point out peoples spelling mistakes. As said this isnt a political topic. so no i wont.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeteLockwood wrote:
wow, how the fuck can you criticize these charities!? doing what the fucking government should in helping and providing for the people who have been injured/lost there life fighting for queen and country, regardless of government motivation, the soldier is not to blame, following orders! this charity, should not be a charity rehabilitation should be the job of those sending them to such shitholes (iraq, afghan) next you will spout even more bullshit on how dickheads like usually wrong and jivebunny deserve all there dole and housing benefits and such (which of course should be spent on those that deserve it instead, injured soldiers!), i say this for all with such a mentality to the people of the armed forces (you know, the very same lot that stopped you all speaking german), FUCK YOU!

Perhaps you should take a second to compose yourself before posting next time?

How about because "help for heroes" has taken a lot of money away from other such charities.

That their very name is a horrible smear on 'real' heroes.

That the wars the current military personnel choose to fight in are very different to the second world war.

And no, the people of the current armed forces are not the same people that "stopped us speaking german" - sadly there are very few of those around; those left aren't suitable for active service.

Do tell how these people are fighting for either the queen or the country?

The nicest explanation I've seen so far is Rogerborg's of a 'blood debt' - that would make it almost acceptable to my mind.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know what, this forum used to be ok.

The people who use it now just pick at others, for either not knowing something or just for there view.

If you all dont agree with something stop posting on here. I am trying to do something that i personally think is a good cause.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont mind the charity Help for Heroes. Though prefer British Legion.

Only things I do mind is the way its pimped something rotten by shitty newspapers like the Sun to sell more papers and tell us all how awesome they are for supporting HfH. Same goes for a lot of HfH supporters. The way that if you refuse to donate to them, some of the HfH fans will verbally abuse the crap outta you for it. I have no idea if either of those issues are caused by HfH, or if they are just 'flavour of the month' in the press.

Stuster I would say if you want to do something for soldiers, British Legion all the way. Thumbs Up HfH without all the pimp, gloss and guilt that comes with it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sable wrote:
I dont mind the charity Help for Heroes. Though prefer British Legion.

Only things I do mind is the way its pimped something rotten by shitty newspapers like the Sun to sell more papers and tell us all how awesome they are for supporting HfH. Same goes for a lot of HfH supporters. The way that if you refuse to donate to them, some of the HfH fans will verbally abuse the crap outta you for it. I have no idea if either of those issues are caused by HfH, or if they are just 'flavour of the month' in the press.

Stuster I would say if you want to do something for soldiers, British Legion all the way. Thumbs Up HfH without all the pimp, gloss and guilt that comes with it. Thumbs Up


Thanks for the input and suggestions. A few people have said the British Legion, so maybe thats the way i will go with this. It seems this thread has caused a bit of a stir which wasn't my intention, just thought it would be a good project thats all. Confused
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should add a note - welcome to "a public forum".

If you want to set up something where everyone tells you you're right and what your doing is amazing, I suggest you start a moto-vlog and moderate the comments to remove anything you don't like.

Of the people posting here and not 'supporting' you - only two joined after you. So perhaps it's not BCF that's changed, just that you didn't bother to consider that BCF often doesn't have tabloid-populist views?

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you mean the people providing for their families ?

The people providing for their families by choosing to go and do a very risky job.
There's lots of other risky jobs you can choose to do, but none get near the coverage of this one job.
Post 2002 there was plenty of information out there as to the likely risk people would be taking and knowledge that we weren't defending the UK or anything like that (in reality making it less safe if anything.)
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuster wrote:
It seems this thread has caused a bit of a stir which wasn't my intention, just thought it would be a good project thats all. Confused


I would guess everyone knows you didn’t intend to start a ruffle. HfH is a bit like a red flag to a herd of bulls in a lot of corners of the internet. Wink
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G, you dont seem to get what i am saying. you are starting a debate, on the other hand i am telling you i dont want a debate! i am looking to do something that i support ok. Now i know this is a public site, but say for instance you do a thread on a project and i came along and said its shite... (iwouldnt do that) but say i did. That my opinion but doesnt mean to say i have to voice it. I have no problem with people not wanting to be involved. Just dont want this to turn into a debate... which it has. Now tell me what part of that you dont understand and if possible i will try explain it in a more easy way for you. ok... Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuster wrote:
Oh and here we have a keyboard warrior


Possibly. Veteran, definitely. I can haz "hero's"?
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