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 Posted: 20:29 - 06 Jun 2013 Post subject: Alien's / E.T's & UFO's Exist! |
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Found this... If its a re post I'm sorry but it needs discussion!?
Aliens DO Exist and work with US government
3 species know about regularly visit!!??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XEQdvYFMBAU ____________________ I hope it's not a repost! |
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OP: Just because the guy is a top government dude, it doesn't mean he has automatic legitimacy. Alien loons are as bad as the religious ones for believe such whimsical things - 'oh well it's possible so it's probably true'. I'd be interested in any alien hype if it were believable, but jesus fucking wept, THREE all in one go?! Childish lunacy.
The most interesting thing recently was the Atacama humanoid from Chile, as it was an actual biological life form. But even that has been debunked. It was real, but from earth.
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'Sfunny how all the amateur astronomers manage to miss all this alien traffic innit.  |
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I'd be sceptical too, if me and a mate hadn't seen one large as life 30 feet up and 200 yards away. They're real all right.
Alex Colliers videos will gen you up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SouPQnxLtM
Or you can do what they want and wallow in your apathy. |
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The existence of extraterrestrial life is a statistical certainty.
However, the chances of that life choosing to visit Earth, or having the means to, is a lot less so.
Consider alien visits from a practical standpoint; the laws of physics as we understand them dictate that nothing with physical mass can exceed the speed of light by means of conventional acceleration- so for aliens to visit us would require at least one of two things;
1) They would have to have been travelling for hundreds of thousands of years, which would require some massive kind of habitation craft or 'seedship', a sealed system containing all the provisions they'd need to survive that period of time such as air, water, food, sanitation, (assuming their evolutionary biology required those things). If this was the case, they would have to enter and maintain an orbital cycle around earth, similar to our own ISS. Then, they'd need to complete detailed analysis of our planet, to know that visiting us would not instantly kill them. Humans have had millions of years to optimise to Earth, we can withstand it's gravity, we can breathe it's atmosphere, we have resistance or at least tolerance to the majority of it's bacteria etc. Until they had workarounds for those things, they'd have to stay up there, in their orbit. Now, how likely is it that a craft of significant size, in an earth orbit, could remain concealed from every observatory on earth? Why would the government feel the need to conceal it? And if they were concealing it then how is it that an ex-politician could publically speak about it without being censored, yet any physical evidence such as a honking great spaceship orbiting earth is somehow hidden? If these aliens did begin to launch sorties down to earth, how did they assert themselves as nonthreatening before we mobilised against them? And most importantly, if as Hellyer says we were in contact and allegiance with them, a species with the capability to cross between worlds who has been sharing their technology with us, why the hell can't we even get an SSTO shuttle off the planet?
2) These aliens have mastered some notion of physics beyond our understanding and have the ability to cross interstellar distances at a faster than light speed, such as by means of wormholes. Ignoring that they'd need some kind of anchoring point for the wormhole to keep one end close to Earth relative to the rest of the Universe, and the other end close to their home planet relative to the rest of the Universe and all the other mindbendingly complex issues with wormhole travel, the big question would still be *why*. Firstly, why would aliens choose to visit Earth. And secondly, why would the governments of the world, most of whom can't even agree on which side of the road we should drive on, universally agree to cover up the existence of e.t. life on earth?
Sorry, there's too many whys for me to believe in aliens visiting earth. But hey, i'll keep an open mind. As the saying goes, I want to believe  ____________________ 2007 BMW R1200R: On road
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| Vracktal wrote: | 2) These aliens have mastered some notion of physics beyond our understanding and have the ability to cross interstellar distances at a faster than light speed, such as by means of wormholes. Ignoring that they'd need some kind of anchoring point for the wormhole to keep one end close to Earth relative to the rest of the Universe, and the other end close to their home planet relative to the rest of the Universe and all the other mindbendingly complex issues with wormhole travel, the big question would still be *why*. Firstly, why would aliens choose to visit Earth. And secondly, why would the governments of the world, most of whom can't even agree on which side of the road we should drive on, universally agree to cover up the existence of e.t. life on earth?
Sorry, there's too many whys for me to believe in aliens visiting earth. But hey, i'll keep an open mind. As the saying goes, I want to believe  |
Not that I believe it but...
First I'll ignore the wormhole bit... You already are open to the idea of physics beyond our understanding, why does it have to have those limitations?
Why would they come? For the same reason people go bird or whale watching. For the same reasons people visit the Amazon or Antarctica. For the same reason kids have pets or ant farms...
Why do the governments keep it quiet? Because they're told to by said aliens who are massively advanced...
Both your 'whys' answered rather easily. ____________________ current: ducati monster 750
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2) These aliens have mastered some notion of physics beyond our understanding and have the ability to cross interstellar distances at a faster than light speed, such as by means of wormholes. Ignoring that they'd need some kind of anchoring point for the wormhole to keep one end close to Earth relative to the rest of the Universe, and the other end close to their home planet relative to the rest of the Universe and all the other mindbendingly complex issues with wormhole travel, the big question would still be *why*. Firstly, why would aliens choose to visit Earth. And secondly, why would the governments of the world, most of whom can't even agree on which side of the road we should drive on, universally agree to cover up the existence of e.t. life on earth?
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Why not chop straight through the neck of all the assumptions you've made there and consider this reality isn't actually real and doesn't require fantastical feats of physics-breaking malarkey to get around the universe? All a species actually needs to do is think itself from point A to point B, just like we can do when we're asleep and dreaming.
This reality is an illusion, there is no actual time, space, volume and dimension to it. ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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Of course there is other life on other planets, which we define as alien.
The universe is huge and keeps on expanding rapidly. We are here, so why wouldn't other planets harbour other life, and why wouldn't they be thousands of times more advanced than us?
We probably look like apes throwing rocks at each other in comparison. TBH, we still do the throwing, just using more devastating weapons.
Oddly, many religions talk of other, more powerful, and special beings coming from the sky. Angel, Malak, Malakh, Angelios, etc all represent beings coming from the sky with wings - sometimes 2,3 or 4. These beings come to guide us. Coincidence?
Aliens have probably been visiting our planet long before we were around. Perhaps they discovered our planet a couple of thousand of years ago and have helped us be where we are today.
We could even be an experiment. What if they targeted earth as a suitable test planet, wiped out the dinosaurs, generically engineered us and have been guiding us ever since?
Perhaps the 'human' genome is prevalent in the universe and we share DNA with life on other planets.
Prometheus, anyone?
I would love to know the answers to all these things. I want to know not only why we are here, but also what else is out there, what has happened so far, and how the whole thing will turn out.
Will any of us ever know? Does any life form in the universe know? I'd like to find out! ____________________
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Thought for the day:
We could send a rocket up into space, drifting for millennia, with capsules of super-long-life bacteria (like the stuff that lives in deep ice, etc). A timer could be set on this rocket so that, after a few thousand years, it jettisons the cargo in all directions. This cargo could easily land on another planet, where the bacteria would eventually evolve to sentient life.
It's entirely possible. Think it was Carl Sagan who put forward the idea.
Therefore humans could be aliens.
Also it means, in theory, there could be remnant of these capsules somewhere on earth . Just in theory... |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 131 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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