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PostPosted: 12:58 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Motorcyclists can join POLITE force Reply with quote

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2013/June/jun1413-polite/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Motorcyclists have been told they can legally wear a high-visibility vest that resembles police uniform.

The yellow bibs have the word ‘polite’ printed on the back in large capital letters, along with a strip of blue-and-white crosshatching similar to designs traditionally worn by police.

Cyclists in London already wear them to get drivers to give them more space, after Met commander Bob Broadhurst said they were not illegal. Now the Met has said motorcyclists can wear them too.

A spokesman said: ‘It does not look like a police uniform. It is merely a high visibility jacket so would not be illegal. It is illegal to impersonate a police officer, so that would mean claiming to be a police officer. Nowhere on the jacket shown does it even say police.’

The full message on the bib is ‘Polite notice think bike’. The makers admit there is little difference between the chequered strip on the bib and blue-and-white crosshatching used by police.

Nicky Fletcher, MD of Equisafety, said: “In 2010 we showed the head of ACPO for the mounted section and they cleared it, they said it was fine to use.”

The firm’s website quotes one cyclist as saying: “Sometimes it's like a force field around me when I'm on my bike as cars don't seem to want to get too close to me.”

Equisafety, in Wirral, Merseyside, has won a contract to supply its POLITE range to cycle firm Raleigh, but Fletcher said the bibs were not marketed for motorcyclists.

She said: “We don’t make them for motorbikes. We only make them for cyclists and horse riders at the moment. We know there is a market for motorbikes but we don’t think they’re strong enough just yet.”

The bibs are on sale at www.highvisibility.uk.com
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet you'd still get pulled...
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see some good trolling to come of this Cool
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh god, I can see it now, all the Police wannabes buying these!

Doh!
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pay one of these faggots on his Dullville, he plods at 50 in the slow lane... he looks a complete mong.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode around wearing this....

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424129_140250976134758_2095519165_n.jpg



It did not go down well.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379695_140250959468093_228684726_n.jpg
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:


Where can I get one?
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

But did they actually get you on anything?I can see a copper thinking "That can't be legal" and pulling you over, but then struggling to actually make anything fit.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every now and then I come across a cunting bastard who rides an ex police bike (with the word "police" removed and a thin black net over the blue light on the stick) with one of those high vis vests and a white helmet. When approaching from behind there is no way of telling the difference until you are close enough to read the word "polite".

He pisses me off as it is because he filters very slowly and won't budge to let people pass, but it was topped off on a recent commute home. I was making progress through the limehouse link coming out of London. Between the middle and last speed camera I came across a cluster of bikes who were obviously hanging back for some reason, I made my way through the cluster and the guy at the front gave me the patting the air "slow down" signal. I moved to the left and spotted cunt features a few cars in front. I waggled a finger to the other bikers in an attempt to let them know that it was cunt head and not a real police officer. By the time the finger waggle was done we had moved past the last speed camera. I dropped it down a gear and darted through doing about 45 in a 30 and as I came up behind cunt bubble it transpired that it wasn't fuck head at all but a genuine bona fide police officer.

Fuck sticks.

Obviously I dropped the anchors. By now the car the the cluster of bikes was behind had moved into the left lane. So the other bikers saw me blatantly ignore their advice, semi aggressively make my way past a car accelerate at a police bike and then slam on the brakes meters behind him. Followed by a ticking off by the police officer (while still on the move, didn't get tugged) who had obviously seen the lot in his mirrors.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would feel like a right muppet wearing one of those, I have enough trouble with the ghey appearance of normal high viz vests*... I'm so fickle and vain Laughing

*I did wear one on the dark rides home in winter though, and made Mr Yaigi wear his cos on a black bike with a shit back light and black gear plus helmet, he was in full on stealth mode, especially when you saw him from behind Shocked
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a tricky one.

On MCN, a really smart poster wrote:

Police Act 1996 S90 (2) quoth: "Any person who, not being a constable, wears any article of police uniform in circumstances where it gives him an appearance so nearly resembling that of a member of a police force as to be calculated to deceive shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale."

I make that 2 out of 3. The intent clearly is to deceive, otherwise it would say "READ YOUR HIGHWAY CODE YOU SPACKER" (or perhaps "CAREFUL NOW"). It's technically not quite an article of "police" uniform though, so he's likely right that they wouldn't get a conviction.


I think that guy has it right about the POLITE vests, but using the word "police" is sailing verrrry close to the wind. It's not actually "an article of police uniform" though, as I'm sure a barrister would point out for £500 on hour plus expenses.

Be advised, if my long threatened office move plays out and I end up doing a rush hour motorway commute, I'll be on a battenburged POLITE bike quicker than you can say "procurator fiscal".
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last thing I would want is for some-one to think I was plod.

I could see that shitty garb being provocative and wearing it getting you knocked off your bike by some-one angry at you for being a twat.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have thought it would be really annoying as everybody is going to slow down as soon as they see you behind them.
If I think the car behind me could be an umarked police car I'll want to stay at the speed limit but then to actually stay at the speed limit without constantly watching the speedo you need to sit a few mph under it.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/216351/images/vigilante-biker-headshot.jpg

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PostPosted: 16:15 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going by the legislation, You'd still be meeting the standards for impersonating police...

There was recent discourse in equestrian circles, with a warning that wearers could be foul of the law. Wether any plod would be concerned with testing it in court is another question of course....
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mMmpjLieqCEtXpo5MtYs03A.jpg

So, what's more legitimate, using police colours, or using police words?

As far as I'm concerned police colours would do the job better - I can't read words from hundreds of metres away.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I saw one of those numpties in February, by Clapham Common.
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ginny wrote:
Going by the legislation, You'd still be meeting the standards for impersonating police...

Who would, and how so?

I quoted it up above, it's Police Act 1996 Section 90.

The full text is:

PA1996 S90 wrote:

90 Impersonation, etc.
(1)Any person who with intent to deceive impersonates a member of a police force or special constable, or makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is such a member or constable, shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or to both.

(2)Any person who, not being a constable, wears any article of police uniform in circumstances where it gives him an appearance so nearly resembling that of a member of a police force as to be calculated to deceive shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.

(3)Any person who, not being a member of a police force or special constable, has in his possession any article of police uniform shall, unless he proves that he obtained possession of that article lawfully and has possession of it for a lawful purpose, be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 1 on the standard scale.

(4)In this section—
(a)“article of police uniform” means any article of uniform or any distinctive badge or mark or document of identification usually issued to members of police forces or special constables, or anything having the appearance of such an article, badge, mark or document,
(aa)“member of a police force” includes a member of the British Transport Police Force,] and
(b)“special constable” means a special constable appointed for a police area.


The "standards" are really not clear when it comes to something that's not actually police uniform.

However, there's part (1) which covers any "any act". I mention that because the chap a couple of posts up there is "Sergeant Eros", the stripping copper.

He was finally convicted of impersonation not because of his uniform (which says "STRIPPER" on the back) but because the prat put strobes in his car and was pulling people over, pretending to talk into a microphone and then driving off, for reasons that could best be described as mental.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a police issue blouson style jacket with the blue and silver strip on.... i wear it for work
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I meet a "motorcyclist" with that polite shite on they'll get a right round of fucks and cunts from me.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalangel wrote:
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/216351/images/vigilante-biker-headshot.jpg



Why wouldn't you want to knock this one off his bike? Whistle
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw a lad on a DRZ wearing one the other week.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You see a lot of horse riders wearing the POLITE notice pass slowly HiVis tops.

I have a lot of Police stuff, Synchronicity is probably one of their best albums.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:
Saw a lad on a DRZ wearing one the other week.


I hope he was pulling wheelies in it.

Tempted, only to make it more funny when making progress.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:


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