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RhynoCZ
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Honda CBR400R, maybe in europe Reply with quote

I've just read an article about the bike at Czech motorcycle forum and Honda is actually considering selling it in europe for about 4300-4700GBP.
Liquid cooled four stroke twin, 400cc, 46hp at 9500rpm with 38Nm of torque at 7500rpm. Weight (including oil, coolant, brake fluids): 192Kg. Tank: 14L. + optional ABS.

Original link: https://www.motorkari.cz/clanky/moto-novinky/honda/honda-cbr400r-zatim-pouze-pro-japonsko-25347.html

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Thoughts:I don't know why, but it somehow looks better than the 500, even though it's the same thing. I think the CBR400R does the job. At first I thought, finally a in-line four, but then I realized one R was missing.

+ It's got the same power with less cc = more revs = more fun I'd say. Shame on its identical weight though Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imho it is to heavy and could do with an extra 20% more power. The 20 year old CBR 400 is about the same wet weight (off the top of my head) and about ten bhp more than the 'new' Rolling Eyes version. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

14bhp down and 10kg up on 400cc bikes made 25 years ago Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When will they understand we all want another feather weight 400 revving to a bazillion rpm, completely impractical, but they'd sell loads!

Spend all day nailing it, staying pretty much under speed limits and it'd sip fuel.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem here is that it is missing 2 cylinders.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
When will they understand we all want another feather weight 400 revving to a bazillion rpm, completely impractical, but they'd sell loads!

Spend all day nailing it, staying pretty much under speed limits and it'd sip fuel.


Something along those lines is the only sort of bike that would take me in to the dealers with a big enough wad of banknotes and the inclination to buy a brand new bike there and then. A CBR 600, Firebalde, Hornet, CBF, Varadero or one of the 'new' 500's spectacularly fail to arouse my interest in a brand new bike, the KTM 390 had me half realistically thinking about looking at a brand new bike. Nothing else has come remotely close over the past decade.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's Honda which means it's powered by dreams, so dream on Laughing

There are brand new 400cc in-line fours on the market, not sure if they sell them in europe though. Youtube is full of 400cc in-line fours, so someone still has got to make them Thinking
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:

There are brand new 400cc in-line fours on the market, not sure if they sell them in europe though. Youtube is full of 400cc in-line fours, so someone still has got to make them Thinking


Link me. Thumbs Up

Licensing laws changed in Japan making them pretty much obsolete overnight. That's where the majority came from. Thumbs Up

Last one I saw was the SV400, which was a 400 twin anyway.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once saw a Ducati SS350 and Katana 250 near the place I live for sale, but I had no money back then. That katana would had been great.

This is my curse, anytime I've got aplenty of money, there's nothing I'd like to buy and when I finally buy something then there are tons of interesting bikes I'd like to have, but the money's gone Smile
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 11 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that a proper native 400 then and not some down-sleeved imposter like the "Ninja 400R" (e.g. an ER6f with ickle pistons)?

I can't really see the point, it's exactly the same A2 friendly power and weight as the "CBR500R", it'll just need worked harder to get the same performance and will likely cost more to run as a result. I guess some folk like that, but if you do then wouldn't you go for a Ninja 300 and really show it the whip?
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 15 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The performance, weight, styling, almost the price to lol... everything is almost identical to a CBR500R accept for the cc and price, both slightly lower.

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/supersports/#!/cbr500r/
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 15 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this goes on, there will never be a new bike that I'd like Confused
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My viffer would fucking smoke that.

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PostPosted: 23:11 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can an old Skool Fireblade 954 weigh less than this lump of lard Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry Hoover wrote:
How can an old Skool Fireblade 954 weigh less than this lump of lard Shocked


Fancy alloys and higher price? Thinking
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry Hoover wrote:
How can an old Skool Fireblade 954 weigh less than this lump of lard Shocked


Because it's not weighed down with silly things like catalytic converters, and Honda have also changed their weighing system in that time. Dry weight for the 954 doesn't include fuel, fluids, forks oil, or battery IIRC. 954 is still a light bike though.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 21 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joncrete Cungle wrote:
Imho it is to heavy and could do with an extra 20% more power. The 20 year old CBR 400 is about the same wet weight (off the top of my head) and about ten bhp more than the 'new' Rolling Eyes version. Crying or Very sad
not even close, the 250cc high revver made more power than the jap market 400 imports and were just a tad quicker than the 400s.
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