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PostPosted: 16:50 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Why people drive so slow out of town? Reply with quote

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I wonder why so many drivers are so slow when national speed limits apply. Nice roads, perfect tarmac and you are stuck behind a car doing 40.

Even funnier when you reach a 30 zone and they don't slow down.
They do the same speed when the limit is cut by half.
What the fuck?
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the time their too busy chatting to the passenger iv found, there is no other road user that bugs me more, burn them all with fire.
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a speed awareness course a while back, you would be amazed and scared by the amount of people who don't know what something as simple as the national speed limit is.

Out of a class of 30 there were two of us (myself included) who got all of the speed correct. About 1/3 thought the national speed limit on a dual carriageway was 50mph, about 1/5 thought it was 40mph.

People are idiots.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
I did a speed awareness course a while back, you would be amazed and scared by the amount of people who don't know what something as simple as the national speed limit is.

Out of a class of 30 there were two of us (myself included) who got all of the speed correct. About 1/3 thought the national speed limit on a dual carriageway was 50mph, about 1/5 thought it was 40mph.

People are idiots.


Same with my speed awareness course. I was right on pretty much everything, but no one else had a clue about any of it.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Especially bad when you come round a blind bend to find there's one in front of you. Shocked
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:11 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also find this incredibly annoying. The fact that people plod along doing 45 through all the speed limits, be it NSL, 30, 40 or 50.

What's more annoying is the road that you're following these cunts down has no opportunity for an overtake, so you're stuck behind them.

Then, to make matters worse, the driver behind you wants to go faster and get's right up your arse. The driver of said car is usually an Audi, which automatically makes them a cunt..
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knowing the national speed limit can't be a problem because they can't reach 50 even if there is a road sign with big fat 50 on it.

I know that speed limit is not a target but this is silly. Very often there is no sharp bends and the road is very wide.
They reach a build up zone and turn into hooligans and start speeding.
Seriously Evil or Very Mad Shocked
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a number of roads in and around Cardiff that go from NSL to 30 or 50... the number of times I'd pass someone going well below the limit, and then slow down when the limit changed only to have the aforementioned clot pass me still chugging along somewhere between the higher and lower limit... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sticking to speed limits is often impossible or dangerous.
It should be simplified and be 40 everywhere. Half of people wouldn't need to change their driving habits Neutral
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people are just idiots who take no pride in driving. We can prove this by the amount of crap cars on the road. I.e. Kia. These people treat a cars as white goods. Just to do a job.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
I did a speed awareness course a while back, you would be amazed and scared by the amount of people who don't know what something as simple as the national speed limit is.

Out of a class of 30 there were two of us (myself included) who got all of the speed correct. About 1/3 thought the national speed limit on a dual carriageway was 50mph, about 1/5 thought it was 40mph.

People are idiots.


This^ exactly fucking this, when I did mine I was asked to stop answering all the questions when I started taking the piss because the others in the room were taking me seriously Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:
Especially bad when you come round a blind bend to find there's one in front of you. Shocked


You'd go round a blind bend at the limit not knowing what was on the other side of it? And this is their fault if you rear-end them?
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My other guess: people don't read road signs.
They are not sure what is the speed limit and drive 35 or 45.

Funny when there is a speed camera with a 50 speed limit sign just before and people slow down from 45 to 40.

Sometimes I slow down with them as it makes me confused when 20 cars do that. Makes me wonder if I'm the only one who does it right.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

To save fuel
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The A605 is the road I use for work. It is by far the worst road I've come across. Hardly any opportunity to overtake, countless HGV's doing about 35-40 mph and collapsed tarmac.

Now, when I do illegally overtake HGV's, I always come across some cunt doing 40 in a car that is perfectly capable of doing at least 100. What is the fucking point?? Do they not see the mother fucking tail back?
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many drivers don't have a fucking clue. There's speed cameras on the A40 at Barnards Gate set at NSL. They slow down to about 40 past the cameras then speed up to NSL past the Junction that the cameras are there to make 'safer'. Stupid.
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
To save fuel


The most popular advised speed to save fuel is 56mph. This can be the case on motorways.

Riding slow may cost more Smile
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tourists are the worst for it up here. Some scenic roads up the west of Scotland and you have OAP and foreigner cages weaving over the road accelerating from 20 to 50 then dropping back to twenty with the driver gawping out the window. Then stopping int he middle of the road to take a fukin picture. Drive to get somewhere take the bas to see the scenery.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll never forget my speed awareness. At the start when the lecturer asked "how long had we each been driving?" this old boy piped up with "Long b'fore pretty little things like you were even born!" To which the collective chuckled. Set the tone on the whole morning

She was a fine young lass tho.

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PostPosted: 19:20 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

C1REX wrote:
EazyDuz wrote:
To save fuel


The most popular advised speed to save fuel is 56mph. This can be the case on motorways.

Riding slow may cost more Smile


As far as I am aware, the most fuel efficient way to cover a long distance is to sit in top gear at the lowest possible RPM.

Top gear is the most efficient gear at any given speed, and the lowest speed possible is the most efficient because air resistance scales roughly quadratically.

On the CB500 that'd mean 40-45mph. I don't drive cars so I wouldn't know what a common speed would be there.

None of this really 'works' on rural roads, though. You're up to 60 and down to 20 and up to 50 all over the place.

I keep meaning to do some proper tests on the CB as I make quite a few journeys down the M1. The problem is that it's quite easy to remain at some speeds and not at others. Sticking at 50-55 isn't too hard. Neither is sticking at 70. Inbetween is difficult because you'll either hit the back of a lorry or have to speed up to overtake.

Data from the net seems to be a bit, well, strange. I think they're changing gear and so RPM might be lower for 55 vs 45.

https://antranik.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Fuel_economy_vs_speed_1997.png

The Jeep works about as I'd expect. What the f is going on with the Celica? Laughing So yeah, hard to find reliable data.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

suburban myth wrote:
Sako wrote:
Especially bad when you come round a blind bend to find there's one in front of you. Shocked


You'd go round a blind bend at the limit not knowing what was on the other side of it? And this is their fault if you rear-end them?


Nowhere in my post was 'at the limit' mentioned, do you assist the writing of sensationalism for the daily mail by any chance?
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:


As far as I am aware, the most fuel efficient way to cover a long distance is to sit in top gear at the lowest possible RPM.



Not really the case. You may need a larger throttle opening to maintain your constant speed at a lower speed. It's got a bit to do with engine efficiency too.

For instance it may be more efficient to drive at 40mph in top gear than 30 as you need less throttle to maintain your speed, and this cancels out the higher RPM.

TLDR, it depends on your car, engine, and gearing.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
For instance it may be more efficient to drive at 40mph in top gear than 30 as you need less throttle to maintain your speed


Fair enough if I'm wrong on the 'top gear, lowest RPM' point, but why would you need less throttle to maintain a higher speed?

I'm talking about long straight driving with no interruptions, mind.

Every vehicle I've driven, you open the throttle more, you go faster. It'd be unpredictable and hard to drive if your speed sometimes decreased as you opened the throttle, no?
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 22 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:


Fair enough if I'm wrong on the 'top gear, lowest RPM' point, but why would you need less throttle to maintain a higher speed?

I'm talking about long straight driving with no interruptions, mind.

Every vehicle I've driven, you open the throttle more, you go faster. It'd be unpredictable and hard to drive if your speed sometimes decreased as you opened the throttle, no?


True, I see what you mean. Confused It made sense in my head. Laughing

I don't think it's as simple as you're making it sound in the real world.

An engine doesn't work as efficiently at 1.2k rpm as it does at peak torque. Peak torque is where the engine's at it's most efficient. So I guess peak mpg is somewhere between idle and peak torque. Thinking
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