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dodgydog
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: How much? Reply with quote

Would you expect to pay, for a painting job?

The property has six old wooden window frames, two door frames, the sills are peeling badly and the guy wants them painting too, along with the outside steps, some wallpaper he wants sticking back on inside, and the interior stair treads to paint, (two flights inside). Oh yeah, and he wants the guttering painting, and repairs to the mastic on the window frames.

Being semi retired I don't want to get involved with this work carry on as a regular thing, it's just beer money really, and as the bloke is a friend of a friend I told him I'd do it in three days and I want £200 for my labour, plus the cost of the paint (probably about £80).

Now he's whining about how expensive it is ffs?
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why dont you go onto:

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Put in your job and wait for quotes - that will tell ya
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three days work from a painting contractor will cost him waaaay more than £200.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Three days work from a painting contractor will cost him waaaay more than £200.


Yeah, I know someone who just paid almost £1000 for a staircase, hallway and landing wallpapering. It wasn't that good a job either, (and didn't include the cost of the paper).
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Three days work from a painting contractor will cost him waaaay more than £200.


As an aside to this.

I was talking to a bloke a few weeks ago, he's got involved with a contractor who does decorating on insurance jobs. The average cost to repaint and paper an average domestic staircase for this particular insurer is about £7000. He told me that before the job begins, they need a photographer to come in and take a minimum of three photo's, they cost £250 per photo!. Then they need a representative from the insurance company to travel to the job and assess how it's going to be done on the health and safety side, (any interior scaffold etc). Then another to come and price the job for the contractor. They are not allowed to send just one decorator in to work on his own! It requires two at the very least, the cost is up to around £4000 before the job begins.
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a very reasonable quote to me. Some people don't live in the real world and expect it doing for peanuts. If it was that easy and cheap then he'd have done it himself.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

£200 for 3 days of experienced labour is a bargain.


He'll be in for a shock if he gets other quotes.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck him. When he comes crawling back after realising how good your quote was, with that ingratiating grin, bump your price up to cover your wasted time.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

£200? i'd snatch your hand off!

I just charged my inlaws £600 for putting up their back fence (24 concrete posts and gravel boards, slide in panels) and that was cheap compared to the quotes they'd received.

that was on top of materials also.

tell him to forget it. other stuff will come along Thumbs Up he will soon come begging Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

For three days work that's a reasonable price.
I'm gonna guess that he's complaining because he's thought about the job as seperate parts and not added it all up:
Hmm, need to do those window frames, but I don't really want to get up a ladder myself so I'll get someone in. Not that big a job, won't cost much.
While they're in I'll get em to do the stairs 'n all. Won't take em long. Oh and that mastic'll only take half hour for em to do.
etc etc etc.
Combine that with not really appreciating how much paint costs and suddenly he's looking at a £300 bill and thinking wtf? It's only a couple of window frames.
Tell him you won't be offended if wants to get other quotes and go with someone else, but that's an honest price.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The houses we used to paint we'd have charged about £600...

But then each window had three panes of glass and the houses were biiiig.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh - people always did that sort of thing to me when I did web design and computer repair. Your rate is much lower than many, it doesn't sound like you are desperate for the cash so don't back down on it as your time and self respect has to be worth more than doing him a favour.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm about to pay £600 to have 4.5m2 of ceiling board replaced, plastered and covered in cladding, plus a small plumbing job.

I'll think myself bloody lucky if they turn up, no other bugger has even bothered doing a quote.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 years ago I used to charge 120 a day per person. Trouble is there's allways somebody out there that will charge less.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

daffy wrote:
4 years ago I used to charge 120 a day per person. Trouble is there's allways somebody out there that will charge less.

Why didnt you be that person?
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: How much? Reply with quote

dodgydog wrote:


Now he's whining about how expensive it is ffs?


Tell him to go f*ck him self and let him get somebody else to do.

people like this are one of the main reason i dont do stuff for people outside of work.

a friend of the wife wanted her pc fixing, told her if would be £50 and she moan it was too expensive.

she took it pc world in the end and it cost her £150 Laughing Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had it before at the shop. Years ago someone brought a cash safe in and it didn't have a key. I picked it open and cut an extra key (as his spare was inside the safe Rolling Eyes ) and charged him a tenner and he grumbled at that... Said how can i charge that for 5 minutes work... Was going to lock it back up and throw the key away until he begrudgingly coughed up Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that OP would be out of pocket at that price. He is doing it for about the minimum wage and is providing the materials at a cheap price.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

GF-91 wrote:
daffy wrote:
4 years ago I used to charge 120 a day per person. Trouble is there's allways somebody out there that will charge less.

Why didnt you be that person?



Start of this year there was some one local to me quoting £25 a day. Fully qualified decorator, got sent to college via job center and was charging so little a day so he could still get full benifits for his family. Qaulity and experiance mean fuck all these days as long as its cheap.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three days work... I would be asking £150 a day mates rates.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Three days work... I would be asking £150 a day mates rates.


Those days are long gone round here, there's any number of blokes that'll work for £40 a day and less, (cash in hand). Obviously those blokes are signing on at the same time.

I have another guy that needs an office ripping out, walls cladding and painting. I don't really want the job because I know he's an arsehole to work for, so I told him £100 a day for two days to do it all. He'll find someone who'll work for half that and take three times as long to do it, good luck to him.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 24 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speed wrote:
I've had it before at the shop. Years ago someone brought a cash safe in and it didn't have a key. I picked it open and cut an extra key (as his spare was inside the safe Rolling Eyes ) and charged him a tenner and he grumbled at that... Said how can i charge that for 5 minutes work... Was going to lock it back up and throw the key away until he begrudgingly coughed up Rolling Eyes


Yeah, I had a guy wanted a tyre fitting one time, after I'd fitted and balanced it he got arsey about the cost, (which I knew for certain was the cheapest around).

He did look upset when I told him to wait a minute, then took the new tyre off, put the old one back on, and gave him it back. No charge Sir, now fuck off.
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