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mic
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: best security device? Reply with quote

I only had an oxford chain for the 125 which i kept but would prefere something more for a real bike. apart from some sort of alarm system (Assuming one wasnt already fitted), what is a good addition? i know nothing is perfect but something is better than nothing.

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PostPosted: 08:13 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be falling for their advertising, but I'm going Almax when I have a bike worth protecting.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almax are good. Anything thatcham approved to good level really.

Bare in mind though a chains only as good as what you link it to. Even superbikes can get dragged into a van by a couple of blokes - chain on the wheel or not.

Alarm is s very good deterant also. Cyclone systems are cheap Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pingmee GPS tracker, cheap and works.

Road Angel Biktrac, expensive and works with lots of support and other features.
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to thread hijack, which is the best disc lock?
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Debatable whats best. I use motrax guvna on front disc. Cheap n decent.
That and another cheap disc lock on back disc. Then big chain bike to other bike. Amd finally alarm. Pretty secure Razz
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Debatable whats best. I use motrax guvna on front disc. Cheap n decent.
That and another cheap disc lock on back disc. Then big chain bike to other bike. Amd finally alarm. Pretty secure Razz
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Almax chain is great for home security providing you buy the padlock that goes with it, and have a solid anchoring point. On the move though it's extremely heavy and the long links make it awkward to store under the seat. A 1.5 metre chain is just about transportable, anything bigger you'll need a top box.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pragmasis 16mm chain, Protector padlock and a wall anchor..and a bike cover just for the hell of it..!!
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a heavy duty chain I I bought from halfords which was £140 with a squire padlock but I'm not sure how strong it is? Got it secured to an oxford ground anchor. Thinking of getting an almax s4 and putting my halfords chain somewhere else on the bike.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid anything Motrax or Oxford. It's crap.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As additional secondary thing theyre fine considering price. But yes dont rely solely on one or it wont be there long. Main thing to remember is ANY chain can be got through especially with a quiet spot to work at it in - multiple things are youre best bet.

If you cant afford/dont have the know how to fit an alarm. There are some good vibration-sensor disc locks that start screaming like rape alarms if theyre bothered - good additional deterant Cool
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are these good?

https://www.motorcycle-road-and-race.co.uk/xena-xx10-alarm-disc-lock-p-407338.html?gclid=CI7k1t7TibgCFWXKtAodc2QAeg
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those types are decent for general security, but to be honest without chaining the bike to something i wouldnt consider it safe personally.

If you're looking to get a disc lock, id go for one of the alarmed ones like that though, as unlike a chain that CAN be cut very quietly and quickly with the right tools in rare cases, the only way to really get a disc lock off is with quite a bit of bashing and force, not to say it can't be done relatively quickly with the right know-how, but it does require brute force to some extent - therefore one of those with an alarm is a guaranteed big deterant if it starts blaring should anyone try start getting it off/fiddling with it.

Depends on your budget but theres quite a few similar in the 20-40 quid range that will probably do the job just as well id think.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Xena-XZZ6-Motorcycle-Alarm-Security-Disc-Disk-Lock-120dB-Motorbike-/350821730895?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item51ae9aca4f


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PostPosted: 19:40 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fucking machete.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

eitematt wrote:
Those types are decent for general security, but to be honest without chaining the bike to something i wouldnt consider it safe personally.

If you're looking to get a disc lock, id go for one of the alarmed ones like that though, as unlike a chain that CAN be cut very quietly and quickly with the right tools in rare cases, the only way to really get a disc lock off is with quite a bit of bashing and force, not to say it can't be done relatively quickly with the right know-how, but it does require brute force to some extent - therefore one of those with an alarm is a guaranteed big deterant if it starts blaring should anyone try start getting it off/fiddling with it.

Depends on your budget but theres quite a few similar in the 20-40 quid range that will probably do the job just as well id think.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Xena-XZZ6-Motorcycle-Alarm-Security-Disc-Disk-Lock-120dB-Motorbike-/350821730895?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item51ae9aca4f


Cheers yeah it's for when i'm out and about, as i said above, i've got a big fuck off chain through an anchor for when it's at home in the shed Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

An alarmed disk lock would be a good idea, also get a datetag sticker
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best theft deterrent is to own a bike that nobody would want to nick...:

https://automotobounce.com/pics/af/05/Yamaha-xj-900-s-diversion_5e1fc.jpg

Too big, heavy and ugly for the local scrotes, not valuable enough for the professionals, not quick enough for a get-away bike. Doesn't leave many of the typical thieves left.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 01 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
Avoid anything Motrax or Oxford. It's crap.


Cant speak for Motrax, but i have an alarmed Oxford disc lock and the alarm works when it feels like it. its gone off in a slight breeze in the car park at work.. and once me and my mate picked the bike up off the ground (after 'arming' it..) and it did nothing.

Still functions fine as a disc lock though, and is a slight deterrent i guess.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 01 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Staffie, Monster lock and another no brand lock, big lock
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 02 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bother with an Abus disk lock. Onto my third Abus Trigger disk lock in 9 months. The alarm function is as much use as pissing in the wind. Leave it for more than 5 minutes and the alarm triggers for no reason.
Now waiting to see what Abus have to say about it.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 02 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was advised at my CBT to have two different types of visible security - i.e. chain rear and disk lock front (that insurance recognize obviously) logic being they might not have tools for both types, and the usual adage - how much security do you need? just one more than the bike next to yours.

I've also heard that bike covers lower theft rates as the opportunist walking past doesn't have their attention drawn... though if you have a 125 it may make it seem more interesting than it is!

Of course if you have the kind of bike that is being stolen to order, they're gonna take it Sad
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A chain is only as good as what its chained to at the end of the day. Just attaching even 10 chains and 20 disc locks wont stop this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyFZ0dVaqso&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go with almax mate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpf35C7wu6Q
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.Silvs wrote:


Yeah saw that the other day, impressive! Think I'd go for the series 4 now which is the latest version.
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