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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Cost of commuting: train vs car vs motorcycle Reply with quote
By Steve Baker MP.

Comments are welcomed... Wink

Hang fire until you read his reply to the first comment on cost vs safety.
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmm seemingly a good politician that isn't all about the safety of kittens where is the catch got to be one Thinking
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
he wont last long in the job.......
FAR too sensible!
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pete Stevens what a fucking namby pamby fanny. If he was born with any cojones one assumes either his mother had them removed before they dropped or his wife took them off him later in life. For the record Mr Baker filtering is god damn brilliant!
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joncrete Cungle wrote:
Pete Stevens what a fucking namby pamby fanny. If he was born with any cojones one assumes either his mother had them removed before they dropped or his wife took them off him later in life. For the record Mr Baker filtering is god damn brilliant!


Not if you are only using a motorcycle for transport. Plenty of people have bikes that are just a cheaper different mode of transport. While the types that will be online chatting rubbish about them are die hard enthusiasts, a fair number of commuters do it just to save a few grand a year, as well as a fair chunk of time a week.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
TheSmiler wrote:
Hmm seemingly a good politician that isn't all about the safety of kittens where is the catch got to be one Thinking

RAF Engineer -> computer nerd -> business -> politics.

He's the chair of the Parliamentary Group for Motorcycling and does quite often spout 12' geysers of common sense.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I clicked on the motorcycling tag in his blog, and it seems he agrees that the current licensing system is stupid and that we want the EU to leave biking alone.

Win.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yay...common sense in politics! I'd vote for him...if he was running in Southampton...
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am stunned. He appears to be a politician who talks common sense and has his own opinions/views rather than spouting party rhetoric verbatim.

I wish him well and hope he doesn't get tainted by the Westminster mafia. Any clear positive political voice on motorcycling has to be a good thing.

I like his ride to work comments...
Steve Baker MP wrote:
...My KTM doesn’t really lend itself to travelling in a suit, but scooters seem to, for those riding only in town.

The main reason I commute by motorcycle is that it costs less. I spend about £15 on petrol Monday-Wednesday. Tax disc and insurance is relatively inexpensive and, at seven years old, the bike owes me nothing. Compared to driving, parking, the train and the tube, commuting by bike is a bargain. And then, when summer shows its face and I ride away late after voting, it’s a joy…
Although admitting to only working a 3 day week can't be good! Rolling Eyes

BTW bike appears to be KTM 950 Supermoto with topbox fitted.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've just told our company director on twitter that clearly company motorbikes are the way forward. I'm sure he'll have some kind of witty reply Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
map wrote:
The main reason I commute by motorcycle is that it costs less. I spend about £15 on petrol Monday-Wednesday. Tax disc and insurance is relatively inexpensive and, at seven years old, the bike owes me nothing. Compared to driving, parking, the train and the tube, commuting by bike is a bargain. And then, when summer shows its face and I ride away late after voting, it’s a joy…





The problem is we have MPs and Civil servants who are spiteful....

So motorbiking costs less in insurance, tax and parking?

Sane people would say encourage motorbikes.

Civil servants will think, increase the cost of motorbiking considerably so that it costs more or at least equal to that of driving a car. Its the British mentality, like when you get a nice car people will key it.

Or when you get new windows you'll get a brick through them.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
someones hacked a politicians page obviously, no politician would have common sense like that.

Seriously though Thumbs Up to this guy
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Thanks for the feedback Reply with quote
I think that must be the most popular post I've written in ages. Thanks for the encouraging feedback.

map wrote:
Although admitting to only working a 3 day week can't be good! Rolling Eyes

BTW bike appears to be KTM 950 Supermoto with topbox fitted.


It's usually six days a week: four in London and two in Wycombe with Sundays off. The reason for the Monday-Wednesday comment was that I didn't return to Wycombe Monday and Tuesday night because the House voted at 22:00. I lodge privately in London when it's too late to get home. We now sit until 22:00 only on Monday.

And it is a KTM 950 SM with topbox. Plus heated grips and Scottoiler. Replaced a 640.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well done Steve, you are now officially flavor of the month on here.

Enjoy the Fame. Wink
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Thanks for the feedback Reply with quote
SteveBakerMP wrote:
I think that must be the most popular post I've written in ages. Thanks for the encouraging feedback.

map wrote:
Although admitting to only working a 3 day week can't be good! Rolling Eyes

BTW bike appears to be KTM 950 Supermoto with topbox fitted.


It's usually six days a week: four in London and two in Wycombe with Sundays off. The reason for the Monday-Wednesday comment was that I didn't return to Wycombe Monday and Tuesday night because the House voted at 22:00. I lodge privately in London when it's too late to get home. We now sit until 22:00 only on Monday.

And it is a KTM 950 SM with topbox. Plus heated grips and Scottoiler. Replaced a 640.


Welcome to BCF. Glad to see a politician fighting our corner in Westminster against the Euro nonsense!

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PostPosted: 12:22 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
The part of the costs not accounted for in the graph is equipment (cost of the bike or car) and ongoing maintenance.

The bike/car costs XXX and depreciates by some amount per year. You also need to buy new tyres, get major services, etc.

I commute (probably roughly the same route via the A40) and it is much, much cheaper than the tube on a per-trip basis, but factor in the cost of the bike and up-keep and the overall expense (looked at annually) begins to even out.

I wouldn't give up the bike, mind you, because it is not just cost. Commuting this way saves at least an hour a day that I can spend with my family instead of someone's armpit on the Central Line.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Currently I have 2 choice's for getting 3 miles to work.

I could get a bus, but that means waiting around for one and the journey to work would take 35 mins at the cost of £50 a month

On the CG it takes 6 mins to get to work.The cost on my bike is £40 (all fuel a month not just work) and £15 for insurance, so £55.

Maintenance on a cg is pence so i would say it is about £80 a month to run the CG.

If you then take into the cost of travel time at my hourly rate £6.20:

5 shifts a week, 2 lots of 30 mins extra traveling a day, so 5 hours a week = £31 * 52 = £1,612/12 = £134.33 extra a month.

So when you think about it the time to travel on a bus and the cost it comes too £184.

So that is one way to view your commute.

I dont drive, but I would dread to think the cost of this
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Steve Baker MP part of his Maiden Speech:

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The Bank Charter Act 1844 ended the practice of banks over-issuing notes, but it left them virtually unmolested in their ability to issue deposit currency to be drawn by cheque. That loophole haunts us today. Unlike the situation in respect of any other commodity, in the case of money, price controls do not drive the product off the market. Artificially lowered interest rates increase the demand for credit, and decrease the supply of savings, but the legal privilege granted to banks means that they can meet demand by extending credit that is unbacked by real savings. There is a good argument to say that that causes the boom-and-bust cycle, the misdirection of resources in the capital structure of production, and over-consumption by consumers. That is the biggest problem that we face today.

We could talk about the moral hazard of having a state-backed lender of last resort and state deposit guarantees, and of the socialisation of the cost of failure; I only wish that I had time to touch on the accounting rules on derivatives. Perhaps that is for another day.


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PostPosted: 12:55 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
phantomkai wrote:
Some stuff


You forgot the other 3.

Push bike. Light exercise, quicker than waiting for the bus and cheap.

Running. Still faster than the bus, unless you go just above walking place. Good exercise. You have a shower at work right.

Walking. Slow boring, takes longer than the bus unless it's running late. Good light exercise.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
As a slight aside...

Wait wut? MP comes on to BCF and everyone is NICE?

Scratch that.

Conservative MP comes on to BCF and everyone is NICE? I must be dreaming surely?

Steve, you're a man after my own heart. Libertarianism and centre right politics. A match made in heaven, and how the UK should be governed. I applaud you sir! Clapping
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Going wrote:
phantomkai wrote:
Some stuff


You forgot the other 3.

Push bike. Light exercise, quicker than waiting for the bus and cheap.

Running. Still faster than the bus, unless you go just above walking place. Good exercise. You have a shower at work right.

Walking. Slow boring, takes longer than the bus unless it's running late. Good light exercise.


Would take a good 45 mins to walk i wouldnt jog for shit. But even at 1 hour a day walking or jogging in total for work its £135 in time spent.

not taking into consideration going out on days off etc.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
SteveBakerMP for PM!
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Breaking news: Tory MP says something sensible Smile

Welcome to BCF.

EDIT: inb4 this post is hidden because Ste has posted an image...
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