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Flamzypants
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Someone tried to steal my bike :( Reply with quote

Hey guys,

Some arsehole tried to gouge the keyhole for the bike and was unsuccessful, the key still goes in and turns happily it just looks nasty >_> But when I went to start it up it appears the battery is flat, the starter won't work, it just makes a loud ticking noise and the horn won't blow.

I've never done any work on the bike before but is this likely to be a result of someone trying to break into the bike to start it or could it just be it's been sitting there for a while (Couple months now) not being used? I've been starting it reguarly but not riding. I can't see that any wires have been cut, and when I tried I felt like it almost started, and the horn went for half a second and died out so it felt like it was just flat.

I'm going to nip to the local shop tomorrow and ask for some advice but I thought I should ask on here if anyone has had any experience with bike thieving techniques!

Thanks guys!
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The battery has probably died from being left and it is probably the only thing that stopped your bike being nicked. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I should count my blessings! Is a battery easy to replace? Or can it be recharged somehow?
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR125?

If so, piece of cake, remove seat, job jobbed.

Leaving a bike and just starting it up will kill the battery... just remove it next time and give it a charge from the mains using a cheapy charger, pop it on once every few weeks.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flamzypants wrote:
Maybe I should count my blessings! Is a battery easy to replace? Or can it be recharged somehow?


Replace it. Don't leave it so long without riding it or buy a trickle charger for it to keep the battery topped up. Starting it now and again will not help. It needs to be ridden to get it properly warmed up.
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, I'll go take the seat off and hopefully it won't look too daunting =)

Cheers.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

And don't just start it now and then, best way to kiss the engine to hell...! Stat it when you actually get back on the bike and ride it.

If your going to do a long term storage, drain the fuel and keep battery charged indoors
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battery's dead, like said above easily replaced and yeah may of saved your bike from being nicked Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you are not too far from me, if you need a hand I can come help you change battery.

I would say that as it has some life still in it then a decent charge would probably rescue it.

If in the unlikely chance your battery is a YTX9-BS I have a brand new unused one here you can have for £25
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Someone tried to steal my bike :( Reply with quote

Definitely try charging it - I'd say pretty likely it will be ok if it was at least making a ticking sound!
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 04 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting the engine uses more power from the battery than the charging circuit will return if only left idling for a few minutes on 125's.
You ideally need to ride the bike for a couple of miles, on some bikes even a hand full of short journeys will kill the battery (ask me how I know :p ).
Chances are if its been left in a low state of charge for a fair while then you may be able to recharge it to a point that it will start the bike but will have lost much of its capacity.
The only way to really know for sure is the correct testing (load tester etc) but to be honest I would suggest putting it on a trickle charge (low current) for a day and see how it goes.
Worst that can happen is the battery still wont start the bike or will labour and then you are back to the prognosis of a new battery...

-Jvr

Ps, for the horn to not even make a noise means the battery is pretty discharged unless some of the wiring has been damaged...
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fingers crossed whoever tried to nab it didn't fiddle with wires, though it looks fine to my untrained eye. The local shop put it on their charger and tested it for me, poor thing was dead, new one arrives Monday.

Thanks for all the help and advice guys, really appreciate it.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Someone tried to steal my bike :( Reply with quote

G wrote:
Definitely try charging it - I'd say pretty likely it will be ok if it was at least making a ticking sound!


I may be wrong, but I think the ticking noise is the starter solenoid engaging and then disengaging as the starter is connected as the battery doesn't have the power to hold the solenoid on while the starter draws current.
Hence the clicking just means that there is barely some juice left in the battery. It gives no indication as to whether the battery will hold a charge or not when recharged, although I guess it does at least tell you that battery isn't completely discharged which really knackers batterys.

But yeah, I agree, definitely try charging it.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flamzypants wrote:
Fingers crossed whoever tried to nab it didn't fiddle with wires, though it looks fine to my untrained eye. The local shop put it on their charger and tested it for me, poor thing was dead, new one arrives Monday.

Thanks for all the help and advice guys, really appreciate it.


I wouldn't trust any garage as far as i could throw them. Of course it was dead, the battery was flat, did they charge it overnight and drop test it for capacity or stick some leads on, say it's flat and tell you it's going to cost you a shed load more than the price of a £20 battery?
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 05 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Someone tried to steal my bike :( Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:

I may be wrong, but I think the ticking noise is the starter solenoid engaging and then disengaging as the starter is connected as the battery doesn't have the power to hold the solenoid on while the starter draws current.
Hence the clicking just means that there is barely some juice left in the battery. It gives no indication as to whether the battery will hold a charge or not when recharged, although I guess it does at least tell you that battery isn't completely discharged which really knackers batterys.

You are right and the last point was my point too - if you didn't even get a click from the solenoid, then it's more likely to be gone.
If it's otherwise been treated well and you get a decent charger on it, you're more likely to get it alive again.

I was surprised that both my lorry batteries that had been completely flat for well over a year were resurrected and now work fine with a decent charger to get that back up.
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for all the help guys.

New battery was sold to me at £22, the guy quoted £45 when he ordered it but apparently they went down by quite a bit, luck is changing xD Fitted it and it worked first time, I shall be a mechanic yet.

Cheers dudes.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 10 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing This thread is fail (mechanics side of things).

Chances are battery just needed a charge. Bump starting it would have sorted it and let the engine run for a bit.


If one of those silly bikes that can't bump then trickle charge the battery. Don't bin the old battery, just in case.
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