is current music crap?long drunken ramble

[wristjob]

ok i'll narrow it down a bit.
i like rock music.
and as a kid i was raised on a diet of early black sabbath,hendrix,thin lizzy,rush,led zep,motorhead and the like.
i liked stuff that thumped along with guitars and drums doing the work.
as i grew i did play around with folk rock and prog(i own real records by wishbone ash and caravan)
then i found frank zappa and the world opened up before me.
its was mad ,funny,self indulgent ,mental,great and rubbish all at the same time.
then the hair bands took over and at the time i couldnt belive people liked it it was like acdc and rainbow only worse(im looking at you poison etc)
then in 83/84 a fresh air blew through they called it thrash but it was just punk with a bit more something.
saw anthrax metallica,megadeath and it was great but the hair bands still ruled the roost (image over substance)
david coverdale has a lot to answer for.
then it was a bit dry until pumpkins ,rage against the machine,kerbdog,nirvana,dinosaur jr,pearl jam etc.
ill throw a couple of bands that nobody has heard of but i saw them live and they tore up the place headswim and rub ultra.
kyuss played the same venue and were great untill they became queens of the stone age and went soft.
but since then the new acts that offer anything good are a bit thin on the ground. arctic monkeys are about the best thing in the last 10 years.
did the new sabbath record get to no1 just because old farts like me bought it or is it because the kids produce nothing that gets the pulse going?
i look at the current "rock "acts and they have nothing to offer,its either stuff ive heard before 30 years ago(repackaged)or its the thin wispy crap i hated from the hair bands of the 80's.
offer me hope point me towards a band that rocks in this new millenium

[Derivative]

Rock music is pretty much complete. There are enough songs out there to last you a lifetime IMO. I don't really see why new bands need to crop up. There really can't be much more variation possible.

Contrast that with something like electronic music in which new sounds can still be combined in innovative ways. (Not saying it's for everyone, just that it's probably more suited to incremental improvement...)

I've never really understood the whole 'x band is amazing and the best ever'. It's just music. It's like Suzuki vs Yamaha. Listen to the songs, not the artists.

[metalangel]

The last 'rock' band I really liked was Fall Out Boy.

I thought I was going off modern music until I listened to country again and found catchy songs that speak to me*. I also discovered the joy of mash-ups, 'nightcore' (what can I say, the high pitched voices make me smile) and epic drum n' bass mixes on Youtube.

Offtopic thread is offtopic.

*I cannot relate to all the RnB gangsta hoes and bitches crap that gets so much airtime these days. Brad Paisley, Lady Antebellum and Billy Currington singing about life and love, meanwhile, I can relate to.
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[Fifteen15]

There's no such thing as crap music, just music you don't like.

Then again my favourite artist is Taylor Swift, what do I know?
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[Visitor Q]

I thought that.

And then I discovered Reggaestep.

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[jjdugen]

We shopped at Harrods during the 60's, 70's and early 80's, now its all Aldi cheapness, packaging that looks the same but is crap inside.
I've DJ'd all my working life, but sold up two years ago, I just could not face another night of playing the pap that passes for music lately.
I had a great little residency at a local pub, mix of patrons old and young. The 'kids' 18 - 25 year olds had never heard of most of my favourites, and I'm talking pretty mainstream stuff, but knew all the X factor type tosh. Once I played them the original versions that these manufactured acts have ripped off, I finally seemed to get through to them. But it was a balancing act.
I judge society, not by how it treats its prisoners, but by how inventive its musicians are. Looking at the state of music, our society is rapidly declining into a child-like state, nothing to scary, nothing that requires any thought, nothing that grabs you by the scruff of the neck and takes your mind to a new place. Cue another session with Floyd or Supertramp or early Zep or Parsons etc. I'll probably be dead by the time anyone starts to craft that kind of music again.
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[matto]

There's nothing wrong with current music, it's just that you are slowly turning into the type of person who told you that your music was crap when you were a kid.

[Mario_Kempes]

You're just old. There's tons of quality new music. It's just that you've developed narrow parameters of what constitutes music based on what you liked when you were becoming a young adult. the music that you were listening to in the years when you first started wanking/drinking/shagging/smoking tends to stay with you and shape your tastes.

One thing about modern music is that scenes don't really get time to develop. The minute there is the first inkling of something happening it's all over the internet and mobile 'phone companies are using it in advertising.

I think we might have seen the end of new tribal scenes. The rave scene might have been the last of its kind in that it developed under the radar and in doing so new styles of music and, ahem, "fashion" grew out of it which influenced popular culture for decades to follow.

I don't think that's possible in the information age.

[i.p.phrealy]

music went crap the minute Ricky Martin recorded "Living La Vida Loca" completely electronically, nothing was recorded to tape, nothing existed in the real world.
as soon as that happened it became cheaper to record so anyone can, whether they are good enough to or not.
it also meant that anything and everything can be altered and tweaked. singers don't need to sing in key anymore.
on another thing has the OP heard of the band Clutch?
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[MarJay]

I always thought I would hate dubstep. Then I heard an album by an act/guy called Excision on Spotify. That changed my mind. It's extremely clever and has many layers, but it has a kind of aggression which is lacking in most music short of thrash metal.

Rock music is currently populated by manchildren who wanna be the new Oasis or whatever. However, Metal music is still alive and well and has taken a few 'retro' steps in the past few years. You've still got bands like Maiden and Metallica around, but you've also got stuff like Enforcer, White wizzard etc.

I do think that there must be a limit to 'surprising new rock' genres, and I think we may have reached it. Even electronic music is becoming staid and bloated. Just listen to the mainstream dance shit that is out there now, it sounds just like the european house that was around when I was a kid. The 'Retro' metal feels like an homage to 80's metal, whilst the dance scene is just ripping off old dance tracks wholesale. There is no respect or even desire to sound fresh, rather just a warmed over bunch of electronic sounds that are used in unimaginative ways.

This is why Dubstep is so good because nobody has tried a really aggressive slower beat dance music. I think in the US they even have a subgenre called MetalStep or something like that.
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[Frost]

Never pidgeon hole yourself to one type of music. Force yourself to give new stuff a try and you'll eventually find something you like. You probably like what you like because you listen to it so much rather than the other way around.

[Nexus Icon]

You should've got into the Wildhearts in 1993, then you'd still have a constant stream of new music, year after year. Ginger released a triple solo album, a double thrash album, a single pop-rock album, toured with the Wildhearts and the solo band, has a new release coming this summer and is currently gigging with Courtney Love. That's just in the last 18 months or so. The man is a rock music machine.

Sorry, I sounded like I want to bum him there. My actual point was dig a bit deeper than the stuff you're hearing on the radio and you might find a real gem that actually challenges your preconceptions about what music you like.
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[Lord Percy]

Generational, in my opinion, and related to the things that hark back to your golden youth, whatever that may have been. Hence most 'older' people being utterly flabbergasted by the lack of bands to replace Led Zep, Guns N Roses and the likes.

Like everything else these days, music is 'too' accessible and is very easy to replicate without actually adding any individuality. Hence all these whiny musicians giving it their all, basically crying into the microphone, thinking they're oh-so fucking heartfelt when actually... please. Full-on cringe material right there.

Electronic music is where it's at. But I would say that, because it's what I grew up with.

Furthermore, I don't think any niche is more popular than any other anyway. It's all decided by what the mainstream media wants to pump out for us. I mean it was probably once all rock music, then there was that horrible RnB phase, and now dubstep has sort of gone mainstream. But everything else didn't die out. For all of this time, there has still been Leeds/Reading Festival, Download, Creamfields, etc, and everything is still there in the record shops or can now be found quite easily online, even on youtube - something for all.

So no dramas!

I think this track is amazing (hit play button halfway down the page) and I can't find it anywhere, not on youtube, not on download (without paying for it), nowhere. Made in 2008 and it seems to be only available on vinyl?! There are niches everywhere, just gotta hunt for it. Nothing ever dies!

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[i.p.phrealy]

[MarJay]

[yambabe]

[wristjob]

[wristjob]

also i would like to point out the difference between recorded output and the real life experience.
i really enjoy a live act and can put up with all sorts of stuff.
when you see a guy doing war pigs on a tin whistle you know its going to be a fun night.
i still see a couple of live "acts" a week and while i might have a great night out i would not think about buying the acts cd.
theres nothing wrong with electronic music as such but i find very few bits of it that i like,and then i usually find that the bit i like is a dead nick of a classical piece or a rehashed riff from the 50's.

[yambabe]

My dad and I, although from t otaly different eras, shared a lot of music.

He introduced me to proper blues like Leadbelly and Robert Johnson, I introduced him to ZZ Top and AC/DC.

My son and I, although from totally different eras, share a lot of music. He introduced me to Jimmy Eat World and the All American Rejects, I gave him Tom Petty and Iron Maiden.

It's all about having an open mind and listening to the song not the genre.
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[radicalrabit]

sound is sound a bath falling down the stairs is sound but it isnt music
I listened to my daughters stuff not by choice and if all about fkin swearing shagging and bad attitude. depressive vcrap and vor violence. Its bred from the gutter trash that came out of AMERICA WITH THEIR LAZY MINDLESS PULP because they are incapable of creating proper music .
Singer song writers and musicians have died off in favour of pretty boy bands and pretty girl bands who sing churned out mush created on a machine. Real musicians in the industry now? who are they .
Thank god we were brought up in a time of music that had depth meaning and soul grabbing beats the music rocked the soul.
This moden trash is anindication of instant life, urge for instanty reult instanty fame instant everything and laziness to the core it is utter shite with very very very few exceptions but there are exceptions so in the end there is still hope ... ban shite talk off the air waves the bad effects of the internet sadly .... PETE WATERMAN WHERE ART THOU NOW
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