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PostPosted: 11:07 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Is having a hearing aid a disability? Reply with quote

Not thinking for any social security/benefits here, more general work/social stuff.

I've looked into it and need to get a better steer as opinion is mixed (not that'd be any different on here, meh!). Just thought someone may point me to an 'official' definition.

One view is that it's not. This is as it's sensory related (or cosmetic). So like wearing spectacles to correct vision the wearing of hearing aid to correct hearing isn't really a disability.

Other view is that it is a disability as you are using a mechanical device to restore hearing and that device may not be able to restore to the same range as natural hearing (unlike spectacles that should correct to 20/20 vision - whether that's true I'm not sure).

So opinions, views and any helpful links please.

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PostPosted: 11:10 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hearing aid is not the disability, it's how hard of hearing a person is without one.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tungtvann wrote:
The hearing aid is not the disability, it's how hard of hearing a person is without one.

Confused Ok, not sure if that's not just picking at my grammar.

Let's say, can someone who has to wear a hearing aid be called disabled?
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Confused Ok, not sure if that's not just picking at my grammar.

Let's say, can someone who has to wear a hearing aid be called disabled?


I think his point is that being 'blind' is a disability, wearing corrective specs isn't. Being deaf is a disability, a hearing aid is not.

Remember that both blind and deaf are not 100% lack of the respective sense.

Dunno whether he's right though.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Equality Act 2010 defines disability as "a physical or mental impairment [that] has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on [your] ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities."

That's it. Action on Hearing Loss have some thoughts on it, thusly:

Several different issues may be relevant when deciding whether the effect is substantial.
If you have a hearing loss, the most important include:
* the time it takes you to carry out a task
* how you carry out the task
* the combined or cumulative effect of minor impairments, if you have more than one
* the effect of background noise – for example, it may be more difficult for you to hear if you’re
working in a noisy place rather than a quiet one.

Have a read, there's more there.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legally and medically, needing hearing aids is almost certainly going to count.

Socially... maybe, maybe not. My friends who have hearing loss wouldn't consider themselves disabled, but at the same time acknowledge that it sometimes causes them difficulties out in the world.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:

Let's say, can someone who has to wear a hearing aid be called disabled?

Do you want to be classed as disabled?

As stated, hearing loss is graduated, generally if you need an aid your hearing is defective to a point where without the aid it can affect your life.
How much you let it affect your life is up to you.

I have congential deafness, so does my mother & her siblings, her mother & Siblings and their children, her mother & siblings and so on. My son also had my hearing loss as its genetic. My daughters do not (thankfully) but they do have the defective gene which means that there is a 50/50 chance of their kids being born partially deaf. Its also degenerative and gets worse the older you get. Ive managed to knacker mine further by spending my teenage years listening to loud music and spending each summer at The Monsters of Rock and each thursday night at Rock World.
So in a nutshell Im a deaf fuck. Without my hearing aids I can hear the square root of fuck all.

Do I consider my self disabled? No.

Except on the two occasions I have used the "disability card" to get a guaranteed job interview under some obscure EU rule which means if you tick the disability box on the application form they will interview you regardless of whether they think you are a fuckwit or not. Embarassed

Otherwise I live a full and active life, have lots of sex, eat well, sleep well and have a normal job and shit.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got near maximum conductive hearing loss in my left ear.

I've been given a hearing aid. I was cool about the idea, but when I got it . . . I felt disabled wearing it, or at least really odd.... Think it stayed on for 30 mins and went in the cupboard.

I'm not sure what the definition is, but would think you have to be very deaf in both ears for it to be considered a disability....

Plenty of people have poor hearing.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the aid is deemed to of 'corrected' the prior problem you would have problems legally disputing you were disabled - but of course it would be hard to prove it had corrected it without your admission to that.

Similarly to glasses - unless for example you are deemed 'blind' to some extent without visual aids, you wouldn't be considered disabled for having slightly dodgy vision.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've posted links above which explicitly refute that.

If you've got both legs off, does having a wheelchair make you abled?
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A wheelchair doesn't restore you to your previous level of ability Neutral
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point of order and something I recently found out about.

"A hearing aid" implies they have only given the person in question ONE.

This is a typical piece of NHS money saving fuckwittery and is all kinds of wrong. You should normally have two. Even if you have one good and one bad ear.

Because reasons.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
url=https://comeheargreenville.com/resources/are-two-hearing-aids-really-better-than-one/]Because reasons.[/url]
"Hearing aids aren’t cheap you know"

So I've heard read, but I'm baffled as to why.

You can buy a pair of generic ones for £20 on eBay. Using top rather than bottom quality components should no more than double that.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 17 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My late grandad, who lived in Cyprus, came over a few years back to buy some decent hearing aids. He was over 80 and a bit senile.

When my aunt when into his room to wake him on the day he was due to fly back she found he had carefully put them in a glass of water the night before. They still worked after drying out though.
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PostPosted: 03:08 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

its interesting to read about combined with other innablities. i have recently found that part of my dyslexia i have a certian amount of audio dismorphia (i think that what they called it anytway), it mean i struggle to hear the sutle tones involved with speach, altho i can pass a normal tonal heaing test.

that combined with some slight hearing loss mean i can really struggle to hear what people are syaing at times, it can even vary depening on how tired i am. hearing people on the phone is even trickyer as i tend to cope with not being able to "hear" what people are syaing by paying a huge amount of attention to body language and facial exressions, eye contact seem to be specially important to a conversation and being able to understand what is being said. noisy enviroments are very difficault for me to cope with.
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PostPosted: 06:07 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
url=https://comeheargreenville.com/resources/are-two-hearing-aids-really-better-than-one/]Because reasons.[/url]
"Hearing aids aren’t cheap you know"

So I've heard read, but I'm baffled as to why..

Same reason why everything in the NHS costs so much. Because companies can get away with charging that.
Company lands an NHS supply contract and sees it as licence to dry bum the gov't.

Private sector hearing aids are simply a case of supply and demand - you think you are buying a better product than the Spirit aids, so you pay the grossly inflated prices.
But you are not in reality getting anything much different.
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MicraShed wrote:

Private sector hearing aids are simply a case of supply and demand - you think you are buying a better product than the Spirit aids, so you pay the grossly inflated prices.
But you are not in reality getting anything much different.


In reality, actually the NHS aid is usually exactly the same hearing aid, just with 'the bells and whistles' removed - essentially turned off on the microchip. Interestingly tho, several of the hearing aid companies have now started launching products on the NHS and privately that are exactly the same, at the same time as well.

Your quite right tho, it's supply and demand on prices. The NHS is the biggest hearing aid buyer in the world, due to that, they can proper drive down prices. I work both NHS and privately, an hearing aid that costs £120 to the NHS, if I order it for a private patient will cost me around £1000, the difference? It's a different name, nothing else!
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I am totally deaf in one ear how would wearing two help me?
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

scorps wrote:
As I am totally deaf in one ear how would wearing two help me?

There is a system of two hearing aids that are linked together. I am not sure me the details but one transfers sounds it picks up into the other. It does help some people.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

scorps wrote:
As I am totally deaf in one ear how would wearing two help me?


My best mate had the hearing in one ear totally destroyed by the treatment for leukaemia (we suspect the radiotherapy).

He wears two hearing aids which are linked.

Although this is an unusual situation. Usually there is SOME hearing in both ears.
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

Although this is an unusual situation. Usually there is SOME hearing in both ears.


My best friend is completely deaf in one ear, and has been considering a Baha to be able to hear what's going on on the right.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Called a CROS system, or BiCROS if you don't have normal hearing in the better ear. Some people go for BAHAs as well, they essentially do the same thing.

We will always recommend 2 hearing aids where possible / indicated, but sometimes it isn't possible. For example: If there's hearing in both ears, but one is much worse than the other, you can't aid conventionally and have to use CROS systems.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to metal angel mentioning the BAHA system I have been looking it up on the net and almost feel excited about the possibilities. need to register with a doc soon as to enquire about this Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd class you as disabled.
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