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TheSmiler
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Moving out flat/house share and bike security Reply with quote

Now I've got permanent full time work (Bring in about £1.4k before tax a month) I'm really considering moving out, at the moment I have to pay £300 rent £80 council tax and £80 board a month. (I purchase my own food).

Now I've seen some flat/house share for about £50 a week all bills included, which seems really good if I had a car as they are more secure. However with a bike I'm unsure of security options obviously won't be able to have ground anchors put in.

So does anyone else here flat/house share and use their bike for daily travel (looked into insurance and it's roughly about £4k for a car plus I'll need the car license so not an option at the moment).
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why obviously? Ask them, it might be fine. Look at places beforehand to try and find somewhere with what looks like a secure yard.

If all else fails, use the old bin-filled-with-cement as a ground anchor point.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not in a house share but my bike lives in the back garden which is fully fenced with a lockable gate.
This is accessed up a car width back alley.

I've seen bikes parked under covers locked to lamp posts and to metal garden fences.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if you can find one with a garage, one of my mates lives in a house share with garage. Failing that a lamp post outside and a 16 or 19mm Almax or Pragmasis chain and a bike cover should do the trick.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.gumtree.com/flatshare-offered/staffordshire

Look sammy lots of em, phone up and ask!
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you need to talk to your parents as it would appear they are taking the piss charging you for all the rent, power, gas and council tax. Point out to them that unless they become reasonable they will shortly be £460 a month down.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Moving out flat/house share and bike security Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
obviously won't be able to have ground anchors put in.

"Shouldn't" and "won't" aren't the same thing.

The question is not who will let you, but who will stop you.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 18 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have been faced with same problem for at least 6 months recently having left somewhere with a private garage to now looking like it will be somewhere with only allocated parking.

Security wise - ground anchors - enquire, some landlords will allow them but may request theyre professionally fitted/left after [benefit to future tenants for them Rolling Eyes ] may not be worthwhile factoring in cost.

On top of that a ground anchors only as good as the chain you put through it - i'd be going for a good thick almax which again isn't cheap so factor both these things in.

If its outside in anycase i'd definately recommend an alarm personally - you can get a relatively cheap system for about 30 quid - 60 with fitting. Have a look at Cyclone V2 [dont get the talking version unless you intend to disconnect the talking speaker its annoying as fuck on garage courts/pulling in at night Embarassed ]

If you can't for any reason get an alarm, get an alarmed disc-lock, no need to really go for something vastly expensive in this department as its mainly to act as a motion sensor and hopefully make them run off rather than prevent any prolonged attack and attempt to actually take the bike.

I personally am toying with leaving the bike at a mates garage [not that close to me though sadly] for the 6 months especially as it'll be during winter partially when i dont ride so much]. If i do take it though i'll be using the same setup now minus ground anchor.

Almax chain on rear [around something], alarmed disc lock on front, and cyclone alarm. If you leave the bike sat a while in cold weather the cyclone can drain the battery a bit so might want to bring it indoors and get it on a charger every few weeks of inactivity.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Moving out flat/house share and bike security Reply with quote

Ask them.
Certainly doesn't sound like you're getting a good deal where you are.
Some might even be happy for you to put a ground anchor in, never know. Don't be going spending too much money/time until you're sure you'll be happy there, however.
Others might have an existing garage or shed you can use.

£50 a week is generally right at the bottom end, so do consider the area, the facilities and the other people in the house.
When I was looking around here I looked at all the places within an appropriate distance contacted a few more.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, what?

You're parents are charging you £460 a month?
Shocked


If they want you to move out that badly, get it done.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine used to charge 350 - children are the new tenants it seems Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

£460 a month AND having to live with you're parents? I would be outa there. I work full time and live with my parents and am only being charged £120 a month with all bills/food included.

Have your recovered you're bike now then as I saw you're thread yesterday about it being stolen...
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 19 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

monteme0 wrote:
£460 a month AND having to live with you're parents? I would be outa there. I work full time and live with my parents and am only being charged £120 a month with all bills/food included.

Have your recovered you're bike now then as I saw you're thread yesterday about it being stolen...


Well at the moment I'm paying full rent/full council tax for the month covering my brother who's shop went under in April and is looking for work (refuses to claim benefit so no income) and my mother who's self employed.

Also this was created before the bike was stolen; still hasn't been recovered so looks like this thread will now count with the big bike when I get it and licence.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Moving out flat/house share and bike security Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
TheSmiler wrote:
obviously won't be able to have ground anchors put in.

"Shouldn't" and "won't" aren't the same thing.

The question is not who will let you, but who will stop you.


I didn't bother asking permission from my landlord to put my ground anchor in the drive
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have they noticed it yet. In common sense terms theres very little reason to dispute it - the only problem is when it comes to you moving on i'd imagine its a prime excuse for them to play the cunt card and say you 'damaged their property' and they're keeping the deposit Thinking
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a house share. All in probably £350 a month (including bills, I don't pay council tax). It's expensive but that's because I'm in a student area and didn't particularly wish to live in a shit house.

Much better than living with parents. I get to live with my mates and do pretty much whatever I like. We have a 2-4 car drive (depending on how accessible you want the cars to be) and a garage probably capable of storing 4-8 bikes (again, depending on accessibility) once it's all cleared out.

My housemate uses his bike more often than me so leaves it on the drive. I personally whack mine in the garage for peace of mind. Takes an extra 5-10 minutes to put it in/take it out currently. Either way, his bike is nicer and more valuable than mine, so I have that extra bit of security Laughing

One thing to note about a house share is who will you be living with?

In my first house share it went a bit like this:
- House got newly renovated, no previous tennants
- French couple moved in (mid 20s to early 30s)
- I put a deposit down on my room
- Spanish guy moved in (early to mid 40s)
- English girl moved in (early 20s).
- I moved in

French couple were great. Quiet. Tidy. Respected everyone's things. I could leave my door unlocked all day with no worries. The French guy was an engineer at Jaguar and also worked as part of a bike racing team (doing mechanical stuff). The Spanish guy was the same. Very friendly. Also a biker. The Spanish guy helped me out a fair bit with any issues I had on my bike during the time that I was there. The English girl was also lovely. We'd hang out and talk whilst we were both in the house.

So far so good!

The French couple moved out and their room was empty for a while. The English girl (a midwife) got a better job offer back closer to her friends and family, so she took that and left. Another English girl took her room. Again, she was really nice and we spent a long time talking. She was only there for 2 months though.

At around the same time another English guy moved in. Early to mid 40s. An okay guy when you spoke to him, but so messy. The kind of arse that left the kitchen dirty and didn't flush the toilet after taking a piss.

Shortly after a girl from Nigeria moved in. Don't really know what she was like as she barely uttered a word apart from when her friends came over and they never shut up. The communal areas were also now always filthy.

Me and the Spanish guy really resented these two and the last few months of my tenancy were frustratingly horrible. To the point where I told the landlord that the tenants were costing him money as there's no hope in hell that anyone would want to live there with the place looking as it did. Moved out as early as I could.

So the only issue really is who you end up living with. It's a bit of a lottery which can result in you being either happy, sad, or somewhere in between.
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:

Well at the moment I'm paying full rent/full council tax for the month covering my brother who's shop went under in April and is looking for work (refuses to claim benefit so no income) and my mother who's self employed.

Also this was created before the bike was stolen; still hasn't been recovered so looks like this thread will now count with the big bike when I get it and licence.

Erm, perhaps you could suggest he is refused accommodation, too?
Ok, if he's sorted you out at some point (say was paying when you were not), but if you don't owe him 'owt and he can get money, it shouldn't be your problem.
I'd be expecting the money back with interest later.

Also - if it's a house share with the owner living there, it's likely to be a little, ah, 'obvious' if you breaking up some of their concrete patio without asking, while they're cooking their dinner.
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Erm, perhaps you could suggest he is refused accommodation, too?
Ok, if he's sorted you out at some point (say was paying when you were not), but if you don't owe him 'owt and he can get money, it shouldn't be your problem.
I'd be expecting the money back with interest later.

Also - if it's a house share with the owner living there, it's likely to be a little, ah, 'obvious' if you breaking up some of their concrete patio without asking, while they're cooking their dinner.


I've already suggested to my mother that she kick him out because he isn't contributing, didn't contribute when he had the shop and owes me 15k (start up fee) from when he had that.

However she has said that she can't kick him out as he has no income he will be on the streets and won't do that to her son. Also doesn't help that we are in a court case ongoing for almost 7 years.
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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she has said that she can't kick him out as he has no income he will be on the streets and won't do that to her son


Sounds like hes going to ride that boat to the end of the river Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 09:11 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:


Well at the moment I'm paying full rent/full council tax for the month covering my brother who's shop went under in April and is looking for work (refuses to claim benefit so no income) and my mother who's self employed..


Actually, You're not. Council tax is not charged per person.

You are being ripped off Smiler. Although personally I would say not by as much as you think you are.. It's always been the ruling in my family that no matter how much you earn, your keep should be a third of your earnings, and that goes whether you earn 100 quid a month or 10,000.
However, for a family that reportedly only spent £30 a week on food a week and refuses to claim benefits, You are seriously being taken for a ride and basically being expected to keep them.

I would definitely suggest sitting down with mum and trying to sort this out, and I hope you can come to a sensible arrangement. Alternatively I would seriously talk about moving out, if only to make a point to her.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rent a room out in my house, and its available after I threw the previous lodger out!

Its just off the A34 by Buffet Island, and I am a biker, your bike could go in my garage, theres also space for a car.

only issue is I need to get new furniture as previous furniture is in the yard wrecked by the previous lodger. He was polish and a dirty pig...its 5 mins from your works.

PM me if you want more details.

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PostPosted: 14:44 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pop an advert in your local bike cafe or gathering place...or walk around the neighbourhood and ask people if they have space in their garage and wouldn't mind sharing it with you.

In the past I have shared garages with other bikers and it's been cool. Also is a good way to meet new bikers, peeps to go on ride outs with.

You could ask at your local bike pub and see if they know anyone, or they may indeed have a lock-up you could use/rent.

You just have to use your noddle and be prepared to ask about. Thumbs Up

Nowadays if I move (I'm a serial lodger), the garage/shed/secure back garden is often the highest priority on my wish list. Cool
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 20 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a really good idea clanger never even crossed my mind to do that, i'm moving to a most likely garageless place soon and don't wish to keep my bike outside so its either leave it at parents 60 miles away for 6 months or find somewhere else local - will definately give that a go Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 21 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the difference between rent and board? Especially as your paying both.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 21 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Resurrection wrote:
What's the difference between rent and board? Especially as your paying both.

I presume the board covers bills, other 'services' etc.
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