Received a s59 warning...

[Deadringers]

Hi all,

I received an s59 warning from the police.
Apparently they received a complaint from a member of the public that I was "racing" and "being a nuisance".

I think this is completely unfair to be honest as 1st off I had new tires just put on and so couldn't possibly be "racing".

And 2nd of all this means they are putting this on my record from just one complaint from some random person.

Any thoughts on how to go forward with this?
I'm planning to write to the police asking to see evidence and how they arrived at their conclusion that the person was correct in making the complaint without hearing my side of things?

Seems to be completely unfair and just a "here have an official warning without sharing your side".
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[P.addy]

Live with it, it isn't that bad.

Request who the complaint was from and put a complain in that they were revving their car outside your house at 3am.

[MarJay]

That is the S59 law for you. It's not fair, but that's how it works.

However I would kick up as much of a stink as I possibly can about it if I were you because it's the only way to show the police that S59 is a load of rubbish.
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[yen_powell]

You should be okay unless they issued a similar one to someone riding with you at the same time. Then it's curtains.
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[prizefighter]

I've done my research before and there seems to be nothing you can do. No way to appeal or fight your case.

It's your word against theirs and you are definitely in the wrong, regardless.

Check out Pepipoo forums and they all say the same.

Its a shit bit of legislation well open for abuse just what the cunstabulary like.
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[map]

s59 been discussed on here before (e.g. here).
I'd do a quick search.

[flamy]

I don't think "I had new tires just put on and so couldn't possibly be "racing"" would stand up in court!

It only last 12 months and then gets removed. Thing is though, why would somebody complain if you were completely innocent of racing / being a nuisance?
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[Deadringers]

Thanks guys.

I'd be okay with the whole "thing" if it was a uniformed police office who stopped me, had a chat with me and told me what I did wrong.

But this is literally sounding like someone called the police.
gave our number plates (me and my brother) (how they got our plates when we were "racing" I have no idea!)
and said that we were being annoying and "racing".

How on earth is that fair by any stretch of the imagination?!

I might go down the crime commissioner route.
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[P.addy]

2 people.

Bikes.

Racing.

Yep.

[orac]

after having a read of this subject, how would one complain about people standing in the middle of the road to try and slow/stop you from having a little fun at the speed limit.

the reason i ask is it happened the other day, granted i knocked it backa gear and passed the prick 20mph faster than i was previously going.

they have to release any information kept about you if you ask for it. so go ask for it, it should have all the info you need to go beat the twat to within an inch of the life
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[Pol Anorl]

I was given a s59 a few years back for "doing doughnuts" on my neighbours laws..

Our cctv recorded the whole incident, id clipped the edge of her grass with my rear tyre.. her son came out shortly after and made it a lot worse with his foot.

got arrested (criminal damage...) gave me a section 59 and was told shes trying to sue me for £16 of grass seed.

Long story short was given s59 police came and reviewed the cctv went off and closed it due to utter bullshit but wouldn't remove the section 59.

s59 sucks.
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[woo]

O really she did that to you over some grass!

What you need to do now is wake up at 3am and spray her lawn and all her plants with glyphosate, and im not taking about the crap from b&q that only has 7gl per litre im taking the concentrated stuff that has 360g/l glyphosate in a 5 litre bottle!!!

heres the ebaylink
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That shit kills anything green including japanese knotweed!!!

I would say plant some japanese knotweed round her house at 3am but that would put your house at risk!

I believe in the simple fact that if someone attacks you, attack back so hard that they are utterly destroyed, detroyed all that they have!!!

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[Joncrete Cungle]

So OP what EXACTLY had you been doing on the day / time in question? S.59 is a crock of shit law that appoints the rozzers judge, jury and executuioner on the hearsay basis of Doris McCurtaintwitcher.

Draft a complaint to the chief cuntstubble and get your MP on the case. If you and your brother have REALLY done nothing wrong.

On the other hand if someone pisses you off or screws you over etc. You can 'complain' about them driving / riding in a manner likely to endanger kittens twice in under 12 months and get their vehicle taken off them and have to pay to get it back. All based on hearsay and bullshit. Obviously make sure they are on the road you claim they drove down in a manner likely to endanger kittens at the time you saw kittens running for their lives.

[Deadringers]

[Deadringers]

[reed]

I think some people like to ring the police and complain for the sake of it, whilst sitting next to my bike with a few friends about 6 months ago, a police car turned up and I was told someone rang up saying I was speeding down the seafront and being dangerous, when in fact I was going about 15-20 mph (20mph speed limit)

Police officer was alright though, said he believed me and then I asked him how small of a number plate he thought I could get away with.

Oh and of course, he was a biker himself.
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[Rogerborg]

You won't win, but I'd suggest reading the plain words of the statute and getting fired in. Just go straight to the Chief Constable.

You're being accused of having committed a criminal offence. So:
What offence specifically are you being accused of?
Exactly where and when did the alleged offence occur?
What is the name and number of the uniformed constable who formed a reasonable belief that you committed that offence?
On what specific knowledge and information did they form that belief? What steps did they take to verify the accusation? What opportunity were you given to refute it before they formed their belief?

Oh, and enclose a postal order for £10 and demand that they disclose all information that they hold on you, as a Subject Access Request under the Data Protection Act 1998.

Again, you're not going to win it, but it might ultimately help you if some costumed goon smashes in your back door and seizes your (de-baffled, amirite?) hoonmobile because you've "been seen racing again".
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[SQL]

lol I had police approach me saying that a "witness" 10mins previous to them turning up had seen me speeding across a field and doing speed down the path/road.

I laughed then proceeded to jam my ungloved hand on to the exhaust and on the engine "Can't be me my engine is stone cold"

They then fucked off.

Oh they were also "Blade riders"

[Rogerborg]