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byron126
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Leather v Textiles advice? Reply with quote

Hi there i know this is my first post but now im able to work full time im intent on investing in either a set of leathers (2pc) or a set of textiles, was just wondering if anyone with more experience of buying proper bike gear would be able to shed some light as to which is better, looking to spend around £400 on the set so after something reasonably good, the struggle however seems to be finding leathers that fit, as im not exactly a supermodel if you get my drift javascript:emoticon('Laughing')b any help would very much appreciated Smile.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mostly do?

Riding for fun?

Touring?

Commuting?

Trackdays?

Rolling burnouts through the KFC drive thru?
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Often seen as a motorcycling fashion no no but I reckon ok for everyday commuting and a bit of reasonably fair weather touring. A textile jacket, leather bottoms is a good combo. Leather jackets are nice when your out for a hoon but the pockets aren't the most accommodating and I find textile less restricting also.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safety and abrasion protection wise leathers will win it. However not very good for winter and rain without a waterproof oversuit so more hassle. Heavier if you intendto wear walking around a lot.

I personally use leathers apart from shop runs and biking to events ill walk around a lot or wont have storage once changed as leathers are also much heavier and harder to lug about.

400s a lot for just top and bottoms either way. If you want new check out RST gear. Or look secondhand will get some good deals given time.

In either case make sure all armour including a back protector is CE approved not some foam rubbish Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for the replys and advice il occasionallybe caught flogging the bike around to some roads at excessive speeds at the weekends but other than that mostly driving to college use for going into town ive no intention of trackdays so that means a 1pc is pretty pointless for me, my preference would have to be leathers is a might be able to grin and bear the could in the winter with a hoodie over the top but if i committed to leathers would i be making a mistake? in terms of the budget i wanted to try and get the best i could as i bought an ixon jacket for 100 quid earlier this year and the things completely broken now so dont want to repeat the same mistake again :L
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id go leathers personally but them in not a fan of textiles personally. I wear one piece perforated ones with vent holes and theyre still okay in winter just need thermal shirt and a jumper then hoodie on top. Or ainsuit if raining Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you going to ride in the winter and/or when it rains? If so stick with textiles.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spend less than £200 on a textile 2 piece suit on ebay. Spend less than £200 on a one piece or two piece leather suit on ebay. Have the best of both worlds. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spend £10 on a keyboard with working shift and full stop keys?

Leathers are fine, as long as you can get at least a base layer (or two) underneath them. You can always layer more over the top. An over-sized roadworks stylee jacket and waterproof trousers (along with decent base layers, try merino or bamboo) will see you through winter.

Don't overlook buying used, I've got some proper bargains on eBay. Just do your research, know what the new price is, and be patient.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a set of both, and together they cost me about £370, so I would get a set of leathers for nice weather and textiles for English weather. Don't overlook faulty ones too, my trousers were down to £50 from £100 because a zip on the pocket had broke. Took me 10 minutes and a paperclip to fix.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 23 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wardrobe wouldn't be complete for my kind of riding without 3 suits: goretex textiles, vented textiles, and leather suit.

My goretex textiles are the most flexible, and the most expensive, RRP over 1000GBP, though I got my Held Tortona jacket for 150 as it was being discontinued[1] and Held Frontino trousers for 300 on one of the German sites[2]. The jacket's front can be turned into a long mesh strip - it has two front zips for this purpose, so it is usable as a summer jacket in a pinch, as long as you're moving. Having suffered in lesser clothing, I will not buy anything that is not goretex for wet weather, with a strong preference for proshell stuff.

I use vented textiles on warm summer days or while touring, with waterproofs put on top if it rains. This combo is very flexible, but waterproofs put on top have a relatively low lifetime of actual waterproofing - seam tape comes undone at stress points, especially the groin, where a puddle of water tends to pool when you're on a bike.

I don't wear leathers unless I'm having a blast on the back roads. You can't wear normal clothes underneath (that is, if they fit properly), which makes them very inconvenient for anything except blasting around, or possibly touring, but my leathers aren't vented or perforated in any way, so aren't great for super hot weather either.

For commuting (which for me is through London in 20 and 30 zones) I just wear one of the jackets. If I had a longer commute, at higher speeds, I'd strongly consider one of the zip-on, zip-off one-piece textile suits, something like the Aerostich Roadcrafter. A coworker wears one, very quick to get on and off in the morning and evening, but I haven't had contemplate it yet.

If I had to choose only one suit, it would be the goretex gear. I can go out in a thunderstorm in it and be assured of arriving dry.

Hopefully that gives you some perspective on what's good for what. What works for you depends on what you use it for and your tolerance for inconvenience.

[1] https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Products/productsresults/Leathers-jackets-suits/2010/November/nov1010-review-held-tortona-jacket/
[2] motoin.de, louis.de shouldn't be overlooked if you're buying new online

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-Matt- wrote:
In either case make sure all armour including a back protector is CE approved not some foam rubbish Thumbs Down

Decent (CE level 2, EN 1621-2) back protectors are standalone items IMO.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear two piece leathers all year round. They get more comforatble as they break in. In fact, even with this heat I prefer my leather trousers to kevlar jeans, unless I have to walk around town once I park up (but even then thick jeans with armour and additional kevlar lining aren't exactly airy and confortable).
In the winter extra baselayers and a waterproof oversuit will keep you dry and warm, but yes it is a bit more of a faff.
Oversuits will also dry a lot quicker than textile gear where the top layers wet out.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really appreciate the help guys, i've now been able to get a bit of a perspective as to what each is going to be for, and i've come to the conclusion of leathers, now just to find a set that fit :L
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear textiles all year round, as it pretty much always rains and they're warm in the cold and have removable liner and vents for when it's hot

I also wear textile armoured overtrousers or kevlar jeans dependant on weather
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have both plus kevlar jeans and all for well under £400

Rst Interstate leather jacket, mint SH £65 from ebay
Leather trousers - £73 ebay Austrailian biker
Kevlar Jeans - £40 ebay Austrailian biker
Buffalo textile jacket £90
Buffalo textile trousers £55
Total £323

and I could've got the textile jacket much cheaper I later found out!

When buying from ebay, size wise I ask the seller to take some actual measurements of the item, i.e. waist/chest with the item laid flat and fastened up.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

byron126 wrote:
now just to find a set that fit :L


If you've got stores nearby:

J&S Accessories
Hein Gericke
Infinity

If you're odd shaped then you could try https://www.bikersparadise.co.uk/
who do alterations and kit that looks like it could fall into your price range. Dunno what style you're after, or how close to midlands you are.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
Oversuits will also dry a lot quicker than textile gear where the top layers wet out.


FWIW, goretex proshell is bonded to the outer layer - it does not soak up water. Which is mostly why I prefer it to other goretex stuff.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Textiles.

Yes, leathers have better abrasion resistance, but how far do you really slide when you come off on the road? You don't really, not before you hit something. Not unless you're in America where after every 6 degree bend there's a 12 mile straight.

For that reason I'd choose textiles. Good for winter and the rain. They're also going to provide as much abrasion resistance as you've ever likely to need on the road.

On track, leathers all the way.

But for £400 you could get a good quality used set of both.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Spend £10 on a keyword with working shift and full stop keys?


Keyword? Thinking

That's not the Borg!

As to the op, the question has been covered hundreds of times, and the gist is, you live in the UK so you're fuxxed.

A single set to cover all eventuality does not exist. For utility and all round weather protection, textile, for best abrasion resistance, leather. You can get combinations of both but it is a compromise of either innate qualities.

J.M. wrote:
But for £400 you could get a good quality used set of both.

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PostPosted: 18:09 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Threads like this remind me how much I need to sort myself out with some bloody leathers.

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PostPosted: 18:24 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

barrkel wrote:
jnw010 wrote:
Oversuits will also dry a lot quicker than textile gear where the top layers wet out.


FWIW, goretex proshell is bonded to the outer layer - it does not soak up water. Which is mostly why I prefer it to other goretex stuff.


Agreed, there are some textiles that won't wet out, worth the OP thinking about.
I think if I was to get a textile, I would be tempted by the Halvarsons Safety jacket - if you have a low speed off you only need to replace the outer and it's got superb abrasion ratings, but then the jacket alone is pretty much his budget so I wasn't going to suggest it.

I did see Hein Gericke had their leather sheltex jacket on sale.....

https://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/hein-gericke-rocket-sheltexr-jacke-schwarz.html

always quite liked the idea of those. Never seem to have the spare cash when they're on sale though.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supermoto_Fan wrote:
A textile jacket, leather bottoms is a good combo.


This

I tend to mix and match my gear depending on weather and mood between leather top and Kevlar bottoms or the aforementioned.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Summarise:

Leathers for crashing

Textiles for everything else Wink
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
https://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/hein-gericke-rocket-sheltexr-jacke-schwarz.html


Great stuff if it works well, but why oh why does their kit always look shite?
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 24 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sload wrote:
Great stuff if it works well, but why oh why does their kit always look shite?


It's fairly bland styling, but then again I don't mind it all that much. Quite like my bike gear plain and simple in that respect.

In regards to whether it works, I have read good some good annecdotal reviews, and heard good things about HG's waranty back up if you do have a problem.


Slightly out of budget... have you seen the price of the Rukka equivalent. Shocked
https://www.brandedbiker.co.uk/Rukka-Motorcycle-Clothing/Rukka-Merlin-Leather-Goretex-Motorcycle-Jacket-4000
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