Bike Security In Garage.

[Lazysod]

Hello Forum,

Today I got the keys for a garage I'm renting from the council in an area that so far I can only describe as not the worst and certainly not the best but it's only 5 minutes from my house and seemingly the best garage I could find after 3 months of searching.

Anyway, I'd like some opinions regarding securing my bike in this garage, I don't want to spend more than £100 on a chain and anchor though I'm not sure if I want one at all (anchor) because the one I looked at today came with fixing bolts that apparently are made tamper proof by inserting ball bearings in the allen key bolt heads, it seems they could be removed with a bit of patience and if they can't I imagine I'd have to smash the anchor out of the floor once it's time to give the garage back which I'd rather avoid.

My other idea is to park a SORN'd Ford Fiesta in front of the bike and possibly buy a wheel clamp though I imagine it would be slightly inconvenient so that's still just an idea though favourite at the moment.

I just want a cheap and convenient way to secure my £2500 worth of R1 in a medium risk area, any ideas would be greatly appreciated, cheers.

[J4mes]

Some kind of alarm system on the garage door that texts you when it is activated, and a bat with some nails hammered through it.

[.....]

I'll never understand why people spend lots of money on bikes then set small budgets for security. What's the excess on your insurance policy? Could quite easily be a few hundred quid plus the prospect of raised premiums if the bike is nicked.

Stick a decent ground anchor in the corner and I doubt it will ever be an issue with the council.

[Dave_R]

Get a barrel, stick a pipe though it sidways, fill it up with aggregate and chain your bike to that?

[mrdelmonti]

I imagine one these https://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2964 would scare them off.

[Derivative]

Put the anchor in a place where it would allow a car to easily park once you relinquish control of the garage.

The council probably won't even notice. Do they even inspect garages? Like, ever? Why would the next owner care?

[i.p.phrealy]

If it's an up and over garage try and secure the bottom corners, someone had their garage broke into near my flats by the thieves just pushing the door hard enough to break the locks.
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[BTTD]

A 19mm pragmasis or Almax chain will last you a lifetime, but will set you back £250 to £300 with a ground anchor and padlock.

You only need to buy it once (hopefully).


General garage security - options include garage defender or padlocks and padbolts in the lower corners, or both.

Pir alarms on ebay. Not tried one myself, but read a few reasonable reviews on them.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390586042334?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[Bike Bunker]

i also own one of these garages for storage of bikes/spare parts

ground anchor with cheap chain......do some research anyone with basic knowledge will get through a £250 chain in 40seconds if they cant they wouldn't even try and get through the door.....so £20 chain will do.....an alarm that texts you and makes noise if possible.......and then a shotgun shell trip wire as already said....be careful not to set it off yourself and put it deep in so the door doesn't set it off...bad thing about them is they make one load bang and not much more so perhaps 2-3 of them you can make them yourself.....a smoke cloack would work well but expensive unless you can make one using brown sugar and potassium nitrate i think it is .....don't try and attract any attention to the garage by leaving door open to work on bike ect

[-Matt-]

On a budget of 100 id say.

Barrel and concrete with pipe to make a ground anchoring point. Almax chain - no good cheap skating on chain or il be cut and the anchor usless in seconds.

Garage defender is very good if the garage is secure besides main door - otherwise may attract attention and encourage people to enter windows/weak wall to see whats worth defending.

Then id try a cyclone v2 alarm on bike and/or alarmed disc locks on wheel that isnt chained. Or if on a tiny budget rape alarms on a thread across entrance

[Derivative]

[-Matt-]

If its really isolated yeah youre probably right hard to secure at all really. If its nearish to at least housing though the trouble of dechaining it combined with alarms going off would probably stop all but a few really determined thieves id of thought.

Alarmed disc lock through a chain links another useful one so the minute its agitated itll start even if the bike itself isnt knocked.

[janner_10]

I would focus more on deterring the opportunist not opening the door. Someone who knows what he's doing - your fucked anyway. It will not take him long to work out that you don't live nearby - he knows he has all the time he wants once you walk off.
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[Rogerborg]

Fit the anchor to the wall. It's more unobtrusive and keeps the chain off the ground making it harder to crop.

If it's off the ground then I'd (hesitantly) agree that pretty much any chain is going to offer the same protection. They'll have to either smash the anchor out of the wall or grind through it, and they can do that to an Almax if they've come equipped.
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[Shinigami]

almax chain and a ground anchor, alarmed disc lock and bike alarm and alarm on garage door, they'll probably go deaf with all 3 going off at once
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[SteveZZR]

Cut the side stand switch wire and fit a concealed toggle switch between the two halves

Bike will start but stall when clutch is released, every time.

Or better yet fit a cheap RFID tag reader and put a relay across the gap

[Pie-Roe]

Two subtle deadbolts at the bottom of each side of the garage offers initial protection for bugger all. I have this on my garage, I don't bother with real security as I don't live in a scummy area at all, but I have the standard centre lock you can break with a bit of brute force, then two deadbolts that are in the bottom corners. Would be able to kick it in fairly easily without them.

Another to remember is that if you don't advertise that something is there, IE stupid loud cans at all hours, and a big fuck off external lock, people likely won't randomly break into a garage. I keep friendly with the people who live in the council flats next to my garage for this reason.

I used to be able to fit a KA and rf900 in mine, but it was annoying as fuck to have to lug the bike flat against the wall every time, and then all it takes is one tiny lapse in concentration and you crack fairings on both sides with a tap from bumper.
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[Joncrete Cungle]

I rent a housing association garage a short walk from the GF house. I would go for subtle extra external / visible security and concentrate your time, money and effort inside. Get a ground anchor tightish to the wall near one corner and use a 19mm Almax / Pragmasis chain locked tight, off the floor and with the bike sat over the ground anchor to make it harder to attack. Back the bike in to the corner and mark where the ground anchor needs to go, twice, afore ye start drilling / breaking up concrete / fixing.

I have another smaller / cheaper ground anchor that I lock the front of the bike to with a 16mm chain as above. I then screwed in a couple of eyelets to the wall hidden alongside the bike and tied personal attack alarms to each eyelet with 40lb fishing braid. The pin on one alarm is then tied to my bike cover with more braid and a fishing clip to make it easy for me to undo. The other alarm is attached in the same fashion round the footpeg on the left hand side of the bike out of view against the wall.

I also rigged up a pair of alarm mines on trip wires, one set at roughly knee height and the other at roughly waist height. My mate set one off while I was disarming the other, fook me in the confined space of the garage, with door open they are LOUD!

Also don't leave the bike outside, wash it, maintain it or rev it / leave it running there. Standard OEM can. I don't leave any tools, kit or anything else to interest scrotes in there.

[barrkel]

[Lazysod]

Thanks for the replies fellas, very helpful though still unsure which chain to go for, I've upped my security budget so may go for a 13 or 16mm Pragmasis, would like the 13mm as it would fit under the seat, anyway picked up a Thatcham approved ground anchor today and I've decided to mount it to the floor since it's good solid concrete and the walls are just single course brick.

[gavbriggs]

Go to your location steel stockist and buy the gear to make a 'strong room'. Weld all the box section up and bolt it all in place. Excessive amounts of good and protected locks on the gates and you will be fine. Stick a cheap but noisy car alarm on a battery and it won't get nicked!!

Easy, simple and probably not much more than 100 quid. Plus you can weigh the scrap in or reuse if you give up the garage!!!

[RichieZX6R]

Some considerations i made when I had a garage from the council that was few mins walk away:

I had my ground anchors on the wall rather than floor as its easier to hit a lock resting on the floor (impact damage rather than hanging).

I didn't use much external security (just a padlock/bolt and the garage door lock) so I wasn't advertising some thing potentially expensive inside.

I had 2 anchors (eye bolts made at work by my old man). One for the front wheel and one for the back.

Had 2 chains round the front wheel and stood the bike on a paddock stand then locked that 2 the rear wheel and though eye bolt. Mostly only done this when I was leaving the bike for longer periods. Some times put the front on paddock stand also.

HTH
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[ShepShep]

Chain and anchor...Unless its a chain made from that high grade toughened steal (cant remember the company that makes them) it takes 5 minutes to get through one, and it being inside a garage I would think the passers by wouldnt bat an eye lid at the sound of a saw, so don't rely just on that.

I good quality alarm and an imobiliser would be my choices with the chain to give them more hastle.

What kind of lock have you got in the garage BTW? Padlock or an integrated one?

[BTTD]

From what I've read / researched: 19mm chains can't be cropped with hand tools = must use grinder.

My logic is : If they come for your bike in the middle of the night, a grinder + alarm going off = someone probably calling the police.
Even if it's just to complain about the noise.

Best of luck, but don't get too hung up on it all. I found the more time I spent looking at security websites the more paranoid I got.

[Lazysod]