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PostPosted: 08:19 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Bike storage Reply with quote

Hi all,
I've just moved to a new flat. It has a garage but its a bit leaky; over time I'll be aiming to weatherproof it but I don't have the time or cash right now. I'd rather keep my bike in the garage for security purposes but I don't want it rotting away! So I'm wondering what the best solution would be.

Would it be best to get a good outdoor cover for using inside the garage to keep it dry, or would something like this be any good? Again for use inside the garage.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorbike-Motorcycle-Bike-Shelter-Garage/dp/B0047UCEU8/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lp_1

Any other ideas/advice welcome.

Thanks!!
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone on here is selling one

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=275725
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't tease us like that, what kind of roof and how leaky. Pics please.

There might be some short term bodge fixes that'll see you through untill you can sort it properly. The reason I suggest that is that once water gets into the garage where's it going? Hanging around to create a nice damp atmosphere or is it drying out?
A dry garage is much handier for storing other bits and bobs an'all.
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks but its a bit far to travel!

I just need to know whether it's advisable to use one inside a garage, or if there's a better alternative.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010: Its a corrugated iron roof thats become porous. I know there's paint available to fix it but there's also a fair amount of moss/plantlife growing on the top, mainly at the back, that would need clearing. At work right now so can't supply pics. Rain tends to soak through the metal and drip down. In this weather it dries out but I don't know about the rest of the time, I've only been there a few days.
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearing the moss is easy, get up there with a jet wash, big barrel of water and a genny will get it running, once it's dry get it sealed.
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, some thickish plastic sheeting over the bike will stop it getting dripped on for the short term, or if you can hang it just below the roof line on some battens, but if your going to be using it over winter you need to get the roof sorted, and preferably while it's dry.
Which realistically means within the next 8 weeks or so.

Do you own it, or rent it?
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a pressure washer so I'll give that a go. The thicker plantlife at the back will need clearing by hand I think, will just have to hope the roof can support my weight!

I'd still really like to know whether one of these tents would be OK to use inside the garage... I was worried about airflow etc.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as there's no water dripping directly onto your bike, the advice that's given in classic bike and car mags is that you must dry your vehicle off before you cover it indoors. The theory being that any damp trapped under the cover won't evaporate, as it would outdoors.
As long as the bike's dry before you cover it it will be ok!
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you just tarpaulin sheet over the roof (outside).
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will own it in a week or two, I'm renting whilst I wait for completion. Its a pretty old and nasty garage and whilst I think sealing the roof would help a lot I imagine the best thing to do would be to put on a new roof, but because it's in a row of garages everyone else would have to get this done as well. My thoughts were that the tent thing would stop drips directly onto the bike and keep it free of dust etc. It's my triumph that would be going in there and that never goes out in the rain so it only gets wet when I clean it!
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:
Can't you just tarpaulin sheet over the roof (outside).


How would I fix that down? I don't want something that would just blow away, and unless I got it perfect I'd end up with puddles of water or water getting underneath anyway.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squircle wrote:

How would I fix that down? I don't want something that would just blow away, and unless I got it perfect I'd end up with puddles of water or water getting underneath anyway.


Just use some batons and nails to fix it to the soffits/facias.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its in a row of garages so there isn't that much I could fix it to, and it's look pretty horrendous, so I think the paint would be a better option.

Going back to the tent, does anyone think this would be a good idea? If I got one of these and cleared and painted the roof, would that be a good environment for the bike?
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

what you want is too make as difficult and noisy as possible for the thiefs!

if you go extreme like i have in picture you know it will take a while and make noise to steal a bike which if sold legally is only worth £3300 not £25k race bike lol

The statement "i dont want to advertise what i have by having a lot of security" is for FOOLS!!!

when your garage is broken into and your bike and tools are stolen i gaurantee you will not be thinking "i dont want to advertise what i have by having a lot of security"
you will be think i wish i had more better security or i wish i caught them and made them deceased!

my security was not best and i lost an 2008 R1, a cannondale mountain bike, complete set of tools, spare R1 exhausts, paddock stand!

I had another R1 in there plus 2 scooters and large box with R1 fairings in there and i am glad i got there before they had the chance to come back.

Now my door is as secure as i can ever make it they will either have to knock down the walls or cut through the dooor to get in and doing so will make a lot of noise as the way the padlocks are you cannot get a hydralic cutter on them only an angle grinder which again makes a lot of noise

do this extreme shit and you will sleep better at night knowing you have done the best you can plus if they want to steal from your garage they will have to put in a lot of work!
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
what you want is too make as difficult and noisy as possible for the thiefs!


Yeah I wanted to keep it in the garage for security purposes, as I can lock the door and put a ground anchor in the floor of the garage.

The questions I'm asking in this thread though is what's best to do with the bike in a leaky garage. I will sort the garage out over time but in the meanwhile I want to make sure my bike is ok. I am considering getting one of the bike home things in the link in the OP, I just want to know if this would be a good idea or not.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've kept a bike in a dry but not centrally heated garage under a plastic cover. After a good few months with normal changes in humidity and temperature there was mildew on the inside of the cover, and on the bike.
The changes in temperature resulted in condensation forming. The bike now lives under some old cotton bedsheets to keep the dust off and I've no problems.

I have no personal experience of the tent, but lack of airflow is going to be an issue.

When my garage roof goes (corrugated fibre cement) I'll be bolting 4x2 battens onto the existing roof (which won't be removed), loft insulation inbetween the battens, and then metal roof panels screwed to the battens, with flashings along the sides where the neighbouring garage roof meets. New double layered roof.
No need to replace the whole row of roofs if the neighbours aren't interested. Materials cost of a few hundred.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

how big a garage are we talking?
pvc corrugated sheeting is around £15 a 2mtr x 1mtr sheet, a box of screws and optional mastic sealant/bonding agent

probably £150-175 all in and doable in a weekend, lay over the top of the current iron sheets if you can match the profile and you should be good for aslong as you need, without losing any security
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 25 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

charlie74 wrote:
how big a garage are we talking?
pvc corrugated sheeting is around £15 a 2mtr x 1mtr sheet, a box of screws and optional mastic sealant/bonding agent

probably £150-175 all in and doable in a weekend, lay over the top of the current iron sheets if you can match the profile and you should be good for aslong as you need, without losing any security


Sounds like a good solution, and one that even I could manage. It's just a standard single garage. I'll look into it, thanks.
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PostPosted: 06:34 - 18 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless water is dripping directly onto the bike i wouldnt bother covering it. Moisture will go on the bike in a damp garage whether its covered or not and unless its a very good breathable cover you may actually make it worse covering it

Definately get secirity on the door and bike sorted asap thought thats a much bigger threat to the bike than damp would be even left damp like that for a year or two.

An unsecure garage is argueably worse than leaving it on the street as it gives thieves a door to hide behind while they do and take what they wish to your bike and other stuff im there.
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 18 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

something else with a group of garages that a friend came up with

Are your neighbors secure?

if a thief knows where in the bike is in the garage they my break into a neighbors garage and smash though the wall - you think the walls are going to stop a lot of noise while inside
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