A word of warning on internet forum advice...

[MarJay]

Recovery guy on a facebook group I go on was called out to a guy riding a GSX1400. It was making a 'funny noise' but he continued to ride it. It then made a loud bang and something hit the guys foot and the bike stopped working.

The Recovery guy was greeted with this:

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/996559_10201618104232452_771681916_n.jpg
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Apparently the owner (who did not know enough to know that a rod had come through the cases) had the garage add a few degrees of ignition advance to his Yoshi box. The bike already had an ignition advancer fitted, and also apparently someone had tweaked the PCIII map to add a few degrees of advance. I think he was running a total of 12 degrees of ignition advance.

When the recovery guy asked him why this was done he replied "people on the forums said it would make the bike go better".

Now, I doubt anyone advised him to advance his ignition by 12 degrees, but he probably misinterpreted or misunderstood what was being said, and perhaps did not realise that his bike was already running ignition advance.

Goes to show, you need to be careful about the information you dig up on forums and what you use it for.
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[Timmeh]

erk.

Quite lucky it only 'hit' his foot rather than removing it.

Surely with that much advance it would run like absolute shit and the garage would have noticed?
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[tbourner]

OP: "Hi guys, my bike's got an ignition advancer and the PCIII map's been tweaked to add a few degrees of advance, but it still runs pretty slow is there anything I can do to make it 'go' better?"
1st reply: "I think you need more advance "
OP: "OK will do that thanks."
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[Vincent]

The trick is to never just take one persons opinion and look for conformation on any advice, esp if it's to do with brakes, wheels and anything that could end disasterously. Why this guy feels the need to get a few more horses out of a 1400 is a bit daft......isn't it fast enough already?

Do you know what forum it was on Marjay? Might make interesting reading
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[Timmeh]

Clearly wasn't BCF then, as first replies would have been;

* potato
* you need a new powerband (red is best)
* stick a turbo on it
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20:48:18 Temeluchus: comp you hunk of smouldering homos3x you

[von1papen]

So clueless mong buys 1400cc bike and then asks "can you make it go faster"

Fucks around with bike, engine grenades.

Oh what a shame......
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[The Artist]

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[MaybeGuy]

like hell any recovery guy knows anything about ignition advances.
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[Timmeh]

[Joncrete Cungle]

Scroll down a bit, then a bit more.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/practicalsportsbikes/?hc_location=stream

[MarJay]

I think the recovery guy is actually a motorcycle mechanic that happens to go out to the odd breakdown.

Plus from what they said on the facebook group the owner added the PCIII and the ignition advancer after the original garage added and tweaked the Yoshi box.
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[Sako]

Epic. Truly epic.

[lihp]

My motto is:

Believe only half of what you see, and nothing of what you hear.
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[jjdugen]

Recovery guy / mechanic....Meh!
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[Shinigami]

tcut and couple of peices of gaffa tape, sorted.

also that's well and truly nuked itself, impressive. also slight retardation
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[MarJay]

Forgetting the ignition advancer for the moment, I'm not sure why in the hey-ull anyone would want a Yoshi box AND a power commander? Seems crazy to me.
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[Timmeh]

[MarJay]

[Timmeh]

methinks you underestimate the power of the derp side.</vader>

Despite being a well-established meme, how many n00bs have fallen for the 'new powerband' line?
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20:48:18 Temeluchus: comp you hunk of smouldering homos3x you

[MarJay]

[Timmeh]

yup.

With so much advance, its a miracle it even started tbh.
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20:22:30 BLUEX5: i would love to be forced to undergo a**l plugging with different sizes
20:48:18 Temeluchus: comp you hunk of smouldering homos3x you

[gavbriggs]

When I was a kid, my stepdad used to constantly bang on about advance and retard on the various cortinas, imps and maxi's that we had to name a few.

Obviously in this case the retard advanced too far?

Why the hell would someone think that you can mess with ignition 'timing' to that level? Timing being the operative word!

He could have given me that bike and I could have sold my vara and passed my test! Mind you if its a 1400 I might aswell get a bloody car!

[mysterious_rider]

err rides a 1400 and still needs more power? First thing I'd be doing is checking his chicken strips, bet your life he's the biggest pussycat on the road and a straightline warrior.
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