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cb1rocket
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 28 Jul 2013    Post subject: Bottom bracket Reply with quote

Hi

Where does the measurement after the usual 68 come into?

I have been looking to replace my bottom bracket but need to know what size to get.

I keep seeing sizes like 68 - 120, 68 - 114 etc

What is the 2nd (ie 120) group of number referring to?
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first number is the frame bottom bracket shell size and the second number is the overall length of the bottom bracket axle.

So 68 x 113 = 68mm bottom bracket shell and 113mm axle.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Karma
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 29 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You also need to know what thread type it has. English or Italian.

An English thread has one side standard thread and the other reverse thread. An Italian has both standard thread.

Also the fitting. Octalink or square taper.
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 30 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going from a loose cup and cone square taped to a sealed unit it is not the total length you need to measure as these are often not symetrical and measuring total length can fuck up your chain line ,


what you need to do is make sure the amount that sticks out on the drive side is equal on the new BB.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 30 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyB1989 wrote:
If you are going from a loose cup and cone square taped to a sealed unit it is not the total length you need to measure as these are often not symetrical and measuring total length can fuck up your chain line ,


what you need to do is make sure the amount that sticks out on the drive side is equal on the new BB.


But equally, the distance the crank sits on the taper varies from brand to brand anyway so you just have to suck it and see. Measuring, with the best will in the worlkd, will only put you in the ballpark. The stated length is mostly irrelevant other than for comparing two BBs of the same make and type.

I keep an old, knackered shimano sealed unit at home. If I'm swapping out a loose or non-shimano BB, I fit it then see how far out the chain line is. I then add or subtract twice the difference to order in the new shimano one.

So my knackered one is 113mm. If my chain line is 1mm too close to the frame on that one, I order a 115. If it's 2mm too far out I order a 109 (well, a 108, you never see a 109).

It's a bit of a buggeration but the only way to be sure if chainline is critical (which in fairness, on bikes with multiple chainrings and deraileurs, it can afford to be a fair way out). On a fixie, single speed or hub gear bike it's more important.
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