Which Gilera DNA?

[TheSlowGhostr...]

Hey guys, just wanted to ask a quick question.

After recently passing my CBT test im looking to get a Gilera DNA 50 (im 16).

After searching, there's 2 DNA's which i like but im not sure which one is more reliable: a 2001 Gilera DNA with a mileage of 3500 or a 2005 Gilera DNA with a mileage of 15,000?

I know its not only based on mileage and age but assuming that they are both the same in other areas which one will be most likely to give me less problems.

Price wise they are both the same aswell.

Thank you

[Doovy]

Hi and welcome to BCF!

It's hard to say without seeing photographs of their conditions and other such details.. the slightly newer one with more miles could have been maintained and run a lot easier than the other with less miles.. which could have had a much harder life over the 3,500 it's covered. Or vice versa.

Also, being a 50cc, and the fact you're 16 - wouldn't you only be keeping it for a relatively short time before a 125cc might be a better option? Granted, though a lot can happen in a year..

If the newer is the same price and in a good general condition, then go for that. The mileage isn't high at all really. Also judge it by the type of owners they've come from!
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[-Matt-]

Hard to recommend on the info you've got so far, so many other factors and owners they could of had its hard to really predict without knowing/seeing a bit more about the bikes.

How long is it until your 17 - unless you've just recently turned 16 and are absolutely desperate for a bike i'd really consider waiting until 17 and getting a nice 125 that can last and do the job well for a few years, 50cc's are a pain in the ass on UK roads most of the time

[TheSlowGhostr...]

Thanks doovy

I turned 16 but the thing is I need a motorcycle for the new school term as my new school is 4 miles away.

Here are the 2 bikes to get more information about them

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/gilera-dna-50/1026563630

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/gilera-dna-50cc-best-deal-on-the-net-540-bargain-8-months-mot-tax/1026982096

And also how could you paint the outline of the tyres like the one in the pic below, and roughly how much will it cost?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gilera-DNA-/330973373605

[P.]

I wouldn't touch either.

One has been "up geared" and messed with by someone to make it quite illegal.

The other seems to have an issue with slow pull aways, could be clutch, could be rollers, could be anything.

I'd be looking for something that hasn't been tinkered with as they don't tend to last long.

[-Matt-]

I'd go for blue 550 one if i had to pick from the 2 - if it has genuineley had an engine rebuild, but that does raise the question was it thrashed to death before. The other one has had a lot of things done to it making it 'go 50' but the question is firstly is this actually good for the bike, and also has someone been again thrashing at around regularly 'at 50'. These things ultimately were never meant to go that fast really

The wheels [red bit youre talking about] isnt the outline of the tyre - its the hub the tyre is put on.

To paint these properly you would need to remove the wheels and tyres, tape the bearings etc and then paint it - ideally by powdercoating. Realistically - i'd just pay a powdercoating place to do it - just ensure they take up the areas that need to be taped so it doesn't bugger the wheels.

I'd expect you're looking at 50-100 quid for the pair.

Personally i'd really consider getting a bicycle and cycling it until you're 17 - save an awful lot of trouble and probably expense, especially if you get a bike that develops lots of problems.

[TheSlowGhostr...]

thanks for the reply paddy and matt but to be honest its hard to find a Gilera dna 50 under £700 that hasnt been messed with somehow.

I've cycled for the last 5 years to a school not even 2 miles away and I'd hope to not carry on cycling to somewhere even further away.

[-Matt-]

Yeah it is a bit of a treck admittedly, i'd just seriously weigh up how many actual days you will use the bike before you're 17 to get to school, as you will be bloody sick of it most likely after a while and want to upgrade but then you have the grief of selling it hoping its still running smoothly by this point.

If you hold off its straight onto a nice speedy 125 on your 17th if you want, and that bike could do you and be satisfying enough to keep for years if you liked.

Not to mention downhill it might be quicker cycling that on the gilera

[TheSlowGhostr...]

haha its not that slow now is it?

What is the best 50cc you can get for under £700? one that wont give you problems but doesnt look like a cheap south american strippers bike?

[-Matt-]

No such thing really. Theres plenty of chinese crap around for less than that which looks all shiny on the surface, but they're very commonly prone to problems and devalue horrifically so you will probably lose a hell of a lot of the money you put in - wouldnt even contemplate it personally.

My first bike was a peugeot speedfight [100cc], i've been on a few speedfight 50s and they're not all that bad, but dont know if you'd get a decent on in budget - and as for 'not giving problems' its like roulette with 50cc's the amount they get tampered and fucked around with by people trying to get them to go faster.

[TheSlowGhostr...]

ill see what i could get

thanks for all the help Matt been a great help

[c_dug]

Lies, I got my 1999 ts50x in completly bog standard condition for £200 and never had an issue. Just keep your eyes peeled for bargains, I found the ts on biketrader.
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[_Iain_]

Personally at 16 i'd fuck the DNA off out of it. They're all old now and well past it. I'd spend £500-600 on a Zip/Typhoon (or any other two stroke Piaggio scooter), preferably no more than 5 years old, £75 on a technigas pipe, a couple quid on a jet & a set of whatever rollers pedstop quote for your weight. Think total of about £700

I would then leave it alone & sell on my 17th birthday.

Depending on weight it'll knock about 50-60mph indicated & pull your arse up hills etc & allow you to keep up with traffic. Further mods will break stuff & not offer any real gains. From what i see at work the kids that do this hardly ever seem to be in for parts. The ones that look at blue bulbs, carbon effect mirrors & big bore kits & constantly tinker are in every single week with something else broken.

HTH
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[P.]

Bike shopping on a budget isn't ideal, but I have found bargains at low prices, CLR125 for £600, another one at £180.

Also had a CBR125 06 model in 08 for £330

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[-Monty-]

[Matt94]

+1 for the zip, pretty nippy in derestricted form with a standard pipe! Mate of mines used to beat me to 30 on my 125
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[Andy_Pagin]

OP should bear in mind that a moped capable of more than 31 mph is in fact a motorcycle and he can't legally ride it.

Offences would be driving without a licence, without insurance. Plus unless the DVLA have been informed of the reclassification it's not road legal.

Penalties would be loads of points, hundreds of pounds in fines, bike confiscated and crushed, and years of paying thousands per year for insurance.

He could also be done for fraud which is serious shit.
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[-Monty-]

[Andy_Pagin]

If you knowingly lie to an insurance company then that's an offence under the fraud act, up to six years inside.
Admittedly that's a worst case scenario, but the other stuff, it's more common than you'd think, and all it takes is unmarked plod mobile to follow you for five hundred metres at 31mph plus and there's no defence.

I just think OP should be aware that riding is governed by laws that have teeth. It's a world away from sniggering while some powerless teacher gives you a telling off at school.
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[-Matt-]

No idea what its like now days but 6-7 years back when i was around this age and knew many a tuned-up-ped rider it certainly wasnt that uncommon for the police to be out pulling them up on it in my area. Not sure i agree theres any likely hood realistically of being done for insurance fraud on the issue, but the points and riding not in accordance with license etc wasnt all that uncommon. Can think of a good 5-10 in my school/college year that got one or both

Unlike these master criminals i of course was a shining example of a legal rider at 16

[The Tot]

Honest answer? You're a young lad and you said you've cycled to school 2 miles. To be honest, I'd stick with the cycling. It's a lot healthier, and you won't have to worry about other ped boys following you home trying to nick your '50, as was the case with me on my NRG (this is going back 10 years though).

But it it were my money, I'd wait til 17 and get a 125. Too many ragged and shagged 50cc bikes out there that'll cost you more than an arm and a leg to insure and run. My NRG ran on neglect and silkolene semi-synthetic oil. I flogged it off because the rear shock went after 9000 miles.

Many would be in that sort of condition at that sort of price, so you're treading into a minefield. The only way to guarantee a good condition 50cc is if you buy new. But manufacturers and dealerships these day no longer have the luxury or leeway to offer a new ped, with 1 years free insurance/subsidised insurance or a cbt for 16 year olds! I knew it were the case 10 years ago!

If you really want a DNA, I'd get a typhoon instead. More crashable, and more utilitarian. At the end of the day, you're not going to lift girls' skirts up on a 50cc. Having a ped might make you more of a target for opportunist rude-boys at your school, and your bike might be subject to vandalism - as was in my case when some scrote tried to hotwire my bike, only to discover that it had an after-market immobiliser!

Keep your pushbike dude! 4 miles... that's less than 20 minutes for a spring chicken like you... even if it DOES have hills!
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[Doovy]