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PostPosted: 19:05 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: zzr 600 Reply with quote

Going to view a couple of zzr600s over the weekend.

With a budget of around 2.5k what should I expect?

And more importantly what am I looking out for? plus point and negatives.

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PostPosted: 19:52 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

well ive spent half of that on a 99 plate with new tyres, exhausts, carb overhaul and a few other new bits all from a dealership and i think its great. for 2.5k id hope to pick up one almost new!!
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

should be getting one in pretty good condition for that much,

if it jumps out of 2nd it means it's been ragged and wheelied lots

any parts you're needing, give me a shout, I've got half an E series in my conservatory including an engine!
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expect a minter for that money!

In fact you should be able to buy two minters!
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expect £2,000 in change.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.5k Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Thats cbr/r1(if you are lucky) money
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

£2.5k? Why oh why you want ZZR600?
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can buy mine and the spares off me for that money!
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: zzr 600 Reply with quote

saint gaz wrote:


With a budget of around 2.5k what should I expect?


DO NOT spend 2.5k on a ZZR600!!!!! Laughing

Good 1100s are about £1300.

Seriously my ZX9R with ohlins suspension (rear shock and front springs) was £2k.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a budget of less than £700 for a zzr mate.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed that You'd realistically expect to buy a pristine ZZR600 with FSH and immaculate cosmetics for no more than £1500 tops. With your budget if you want to use all of it? you can either get much newer more recent technology machines in good condition or a bigger immaculate bike with more space comfort and a lot more power for the same price or not much more than best out there ZZR600 money.

Definitely look a newer 600's or at other nice sports tourers for your budget, which would go a long way on a wide range of decent and clean secondhand sports bikes or sports tourers that are considerably better than a ZZR600 or at least newer and more advanced.

Id be looking at nice VFR800's for your budget, and stuff like mint 98 Blades or ZX9R C-E models, TLR1000's and for well under budget mint condition Firestorms etc.

Basically with £2.5k you've got plenty of good options and can a fford to be a bit more picky and take your time finding the right bike for you.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 07 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because his budget is £2.5k doesn't mean he has to use it all Wink
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PostPosted: 07:31 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to spend 2.5k you could probably get an almost brand new one. but for that money, why don't you get a bigger engined one? the 1100 as mentioned is a rocket and quite cheap still.

I think that budget could be spent on something better than a zzr600 and then buy a zzr600 with the change
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow you guys must get some great bargains, I can't seem to find any of them. I'll post links to the bike I'm looking at later to see what you think. I'll admit I'm a bit Green when it comes to bikes. Lol

I do like the vfr's but a blade or tl1000 for a first bike seems a bit much for me.

Do like a couple of cbrs but they are a bit more than I'd like to spend and they are still on a 02 plate.
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look on gumtree and on ebay, there's always 600s around the 1k mark! get the E model though, the D is the older one.

If it has Nissin front brake calipers that's a deal maker, and if it's had a new shock, Hagon, or the zzr1200 shock mod double treble deal maker!
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife just picked up a '93 ZZR400 - same as ZZR600E, but with sleeved down engine. Had 30K (km) on it, rebuilt a couple of years back, nissin brakes, well looked after by a mate.

Yeah, watch for jumping out of 2nd - indicates it needs new dog tooth in gear box - big strip down - so just walk away.
Default brakes are bit naff, most uprate them to the Nissins off the CBR (I believe). Rear shock usually get swapped for something better. Plenty of spares on ebay, all generally very cheap.

Either way, it's a fun little pocket rocket.

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PostPosted: 11:11 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think and I'm really generalising here and don't want to be patronising but the extra weight of a 1000cc+ sports tourer might be a little bit much for your first bike. The thing is that there's a few very clean big cc sports/sports tourers out there in great condition for under £2k tops. Things like Thunderaces, RF900's, CBR1000's, and ZZR1100's are all available in great condition at this price level.

The idea of a 600cc bike is also a good one and I didn't realise it was a first time bike situation sorry! But I also wouldn't limit yourself to a 600cc and certainely don't limit yourself to one model like a ZZR600 as theres always alternatives. I think RF600's, Thundercat's, ZX6R's and CBR600's are just some of them.

personally if I had 2.5K and wanted a really clean immaculate bike that I could look after and keep for a long time, id definitely look at VFR800's etc and definitely at up and coming classics like the 98-99 Blade. A mint one of those is a comfy very capable bike, that you just can't really lose money on, and that's what would be important to me.

Lots of things to think about though, and as said you have loads of choices out there with your budget. I only yesterday saw a nice clean Suzuki TL1000S like Paddy's, advertised locally to me for about £1800. One of those is another future cult bike classic, and keep it nice and reasonably original and you won't lose anything on it, and maybe it will become worth more in a few years too.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, if it's you first bike, from experience I'd avoid anything faired and probably wouldn't bother spending beyond 1.5K.

Two reasons:
1) You'll inevitable drop it (a few times). The fairing will always come off badly and scuff, crack and generally end very tatty. I have a FZS600 with half fairing, dropped it half dozen times at least in first year, fairing looks shite now... It happens, everyone does it.

2) Insurance. I presume you'll be going TPFT for cost. I found once you stipulate a bike value beyond £1.5K, the premium rises by roughly how much you specify over that figure! ie. premium for £1.5K bike =
~£300, for £2k bike = ~£800 (£300 + 500).

This was me, going straight to 600cc first bike after DAS, not bothering with 125 after CBT.

My wife passed her test at 19, but had a 12 year break from riding. Is now finding the ZZR400 not the easiest ride and is only regaining confidence slowly. Her short stature is a contributing factor, but breezed through a back to biking course on a CB500 by comparison.

Put grand back in bank, save it for next year when you upgrade.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok here a few links to bikes that I was looking at

zzr's
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201306267488199/sort/recpriceascdefault/usedbikes/price-from/2000/price-to/3000/dealer/9349/page/2/postcode/wa32jq/advert-type/dealer-stock?logcode=dsp

https://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/bikes_popup.jsp?did=8850&pageid=4&originalid=&gid=&tid=2&start=1&distance=0&adcategory=bikes&channel=DEALERPAGE&id=201321515507239

I also like this cbr
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201305236903386/sort/recpriceascdefault/usedbikes/dealer/60782/page/1/advert-type/dealer-stock?logcode=dsp

but not sure how practical it will be. I need to ride all year round and be fairly comfortable, and not look shite with a box on. lol

I am hoping to work closer to home so wont need to ride in the worst weather, and then i want a 05/06 636 Cool
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, that ZZR on Autotrader is WAY too expensive. Not in a million years would I drop that much money on a ZZR.

Here are a few other bikes you could consider.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/yamaha-yzf600-thundercat/1027540121#photo-content

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/kawasaki-zx6r-ninja-green-tax-and-tested-till-end-of-march-2014-px-poss/1027119280#photo-content

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/honda-cbr-600f/1026985016#photo-content

If that CBRs mileage is legit, that could be pretty nice indeed.

Not sure if it's already been said, but also look at Yamaha Fazers, Suzuki SV 650s, maybe some older FZRs too.

But this is only if you're set on a sporty faired bike. I'd be buying a naked bike like a Hornet or something if I was starting on a big bike now. Learnt that the hard way by dropping my ZZR6 a fair few times.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

do like the thundercats

looked at a few fazers but dont really like the older models, hornets was my first thought when i wanted a bike....till i sat on them Laughing

another cbr
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201307087700535/sort/locasc/usedbikes/price-to/3000/cc-to/700cc/cc-from/500cc/model/cbr/make/honda/radius/30/page/2/postcode/wa110ed?logcode=p

gonna go to preston at the weekend and have a look at a few places I think, seems a bit more choice around there.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found zzr a lot cheaper than cbr to insure. If your going finance, you'll need to go fully comprehensive.

On my zzr test ride 70mph on the duel carriageway didn't feel fast and 110 on the way back was fast enough Laughing fine for a first big bike
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

saint gaz wrote:


They've had that since easter, I was going to go have a look at it when I was looking for mine!
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 08 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

saint gaz wrote:
do like the thundercats

looked at a few fazers but dont really like the older models, hornets was my first thought when i wanted a bike....till i sat on them Laughing


Interesting. I really like my Fazer 600. Smile General consensus is the FZS600 is a much better ride than the Thundercat, not compared myself mind.
The slightly later 'Foxeye' 2002-2003 Fazer's do look a damnsight better than the older Square eye ones. Definitely a smoother and easier ride to the ZZR. More relaxed and up right position, which you may long for on a long ride, but you can still hunch down to tank when you want to flaw it up motorway. Bigger tank, better economy than the ZZR too. Servicing will be easier/cheaper without tones of fairing to remove too...
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